M1A/M14 bullet button?

[X-NewYawker]

I will Clarify for ChrisDM:
Yes, putting a EBR stock on an M1-A does not ruin it -- in a FREE STATE -- but HERE, in California, PUTTING A BB or locking the mag in place RUINS it. Yes -- ruins it -- and you missed the key point -- when we RUIN an already compliant rifle to conform to the asinine CA laws, we aren't "winning" or "Beating the DOJ" we are letting them win. We should proudly keep the few rifles that managed (and I still don't know who the people at Ruger and Springfield were blowing back then-) somehow to avoid the AWB. Every compliant rifle we RUIN to conform to their laws for the sake of a pistol grip, is a LOSS for us.

I'm glad you like your EBR. I'm glad you're the hit of the range.
But you're still a slave.

[killshot44]

Kids these days with their rock and roll and pistol-grips....

[E Pluribus Unum]

Have they already made drugs legal in California?
Argh! We neuter our AR-15s because WE HAVE TO to make them compliant. Here is a rifle that is already compliant out of the box, and for the use of a PISTOL GRIP there's this whole list of dudes willing to F with the MiA. To what? make it look like an AR? To take AR accessories?
that's what an AR-10 is!
Jesus palomino!
AND some of these erector set looking stock deals make ejection an iffy thing with some loads.
BTW -- Here is a "modern M1-A" that is completely legal:

No tool to release mag. No stripper clips.
The way rifles WERE, before the AWB.
Let's not let the asinine laws of this state get us thinking that all good rifles have to have BBs and PGs - PLEASE!

What he said!

I will Clarify for ChrisDM:
Yes, putting a EBR stock on an M1-A does not ruin it -- in a FREE STATE -- but HERE, in California, PUTTING A BB or locking the mag in place RUINS it. Yes -- ruins it -- and you missed the key point -- when we RUIN an already compliant rifle to conform to the asinine CA laws, we aren't "winning" or "Beating the DOJ" we are letting them win. We should proudly keep the few rifles that managed (and I still don't know who the people at Ruger and Springfield were blowing back then-) somehow to avoid the AWB. Every compliant rifle we RUIN to conform to their laws for the sake of a pistol grip, is a LOSS for us.

I'm glad you like your EBR. I'm glad you're the hit of the range.
But you're still a slave.

Amen!!

Cutting off the mag release is not going to de-value a M1A, get real!

There is nothing wrong with a modern version of a 50 year old rifle. mine is in a sage mod-1 stock and i would never go back to the old, low cheek wood or fiberglass stock. Never.

I would not buy your damaged M1A rifle even with the Sage stock on it unless it was at a greatly reduced price. Cutting off a mag release would certainly effect the resale value of the gun. Even if not the value, the market. Many people would refuse to buy an M1A rifle with a damaged mag release for the same price as one that worked.

How easy is it to swap stocks on an M1A rifle? Keep the sage for a SHTF or "visiting other states" scenario, and buy a McMillan stock that is compliant for California use. It is good enough for the military. Since when does a pistol grip improve accuracy?

Steady mounting platform??? Ever heard of an ARMS 18?? It is a very sturdy mount and holds 0 very well.

Listen... if you want to ruin your rifle, be my guest. I just know there are better ways to accurize your M1A that do not include a pistol grip and cutting off your mag release.

[ChrisDM]

I will Clarify for ChrisDM:
Yes, putting a EBR stock on an M1-A does not ruin it -- in a FREE STATE -- but HERE, in California, PUTTING A BB or locking the mag in place RUINS it. Yes -- ruins it -- and you missed the key point -- when we RUIN an already compliant rifle to conform to the asinine CA laws, we aren't "winning" or "Beating the DOJ" we are letting them win. We should proudly keep the few rifles that managed (and I still don't know who the people at Ruger and Springfield were blowing back then-) somehow to avoid the AWB. Every compliant rifle we RUIN to conform to their laws for the sake of a pistol grip, is a LOSS for us.

I'm glad you like your EBR. I'm glad you're the hit of the range.
But you're still a slave.

Apparently I will have to define "ruin" for you! The definition is obviously not clear to you, I'm surprised.

[Sure Shot 45]

This aint ruined

[E Pluribus Unum]

This aint ruined

That's perfect.

Modern stock; better mounting points, good cheek weld....

NO BULLET BUTTON
NO PISTOL GRIP

[X-NewYawker]

Apparently I will have to define "ruin" for you! The definition is obviously not clear to you, I'm surprised.

I may not live in Coachella Valley but I can be pretty sure I make a bit more money for the correct use of words than you do. Cutting the balls off your M1A is ruining it -- decreasing its intrinsic and concrete value -- and it shows you have no respect for the weapon, or in my case, your betters, so cut whatever part off you gun you want, just don't think that makes you smarter or better than those of us who choose NOT to.

[X-NewYawker]

Boy.

[X-NewYawker]

That's perfect.

Modern stock; better mounting points, good cheek weld....

NO BULLET BUTTON
NO PISTOL GRIP

F'ing alright. JAE and SAGE CA compliant RULE!

[odysseus]

Another "old timer" that agrees it is better to find a solution that works for you where you don't have to neuter the m1a/m14. It's system as well won't apply well to easy use of a "tool", I think. Of course, I own a load of 20 rnd mags since before the 2000 ban so I would never dream of not being able to swap my mags out.

[ChrisDM]

I may not live in Coachella Valley but I can be pretty sure I make a bit more money for the correct use of words than you do. Cutting the balls off your M1A is ruining it -- decreasing its intrinsic and concrete value -- and it shows you have no respect for the weapon, or in my case, your betters, so cut whatever part off you gun you want, just don't think that makes you smarter or better than those of us who choose NOT to.

I never said I am "smarter or better than those who chose not to" modify their weapons, but I do know how to use a dictionary...

Ruin: destroy completely; damage irreparably... Now THAT makes me feel "smarter or better"

[metalhead357]

Methinks the best way to describe this is by analogy: take a 100K Porche and put a Pinto motor in it......... Does it work? Probably. Did it increase the value? Nope. Did it do anything but change the symetry of the original? You betcha............. Was the change for the better? Not in a million years.

Win: Keep the gun as is in legal form and have detachables.
Fail: Put on an otherwise CA-UNfriendly stock.......
EPIC fail: Put on a CA Unfriendly stock, pin the mag, and make a otherwise awsome gun a completely neutered, decreased value(d) (re-sale value), epitimy of how stupid this state's laws have become.

But hey-- it's YOUR gun, do as you please: (legally of course....) just keep in mind if you come asking for opinions about your gun-- dont be surprised when you get reactions you dont like

[Mono]

Funny you guys are discussing this. I just fondled a M1A Scout with a Sage stock yesteray at OC Armory. It was big, bad, heavy & mean looking. It looked more like something the Borg would produce. But the minute the guy said it had a bullet button, the big, bad Rottweiler turned into a neutered poodle. Ok....time to go back to work.

[ChrisDM]

Funny you guys are discussing this. I just fondled a M1A Scout with a Sage stock yesteray at OC Armory. It was big, bad, heavy & mean looking. It looked more like something the Borg would produce. But the minute the guy said it had a bullet button, the big, bad Rottweiler turned into a neutered poodle. Ok....time to go back to work.

Speaking from experience, I can tell you it still bites very, very hard... Did it have a bipod, and if so do you remember which one? Thanks,

[Mono]

No bipod & it was the only one on display. It also had a silencer on it.