Two Stage Trigger

[TonyKat]

So what's the be deal? I've never used one. Are they worth the added cost?

[fairfaxjim]

So what's the be deal? I've never used one. Are they worth the added cost?

Yeah! Find someone who has one and give it a try.

[TonyKat]

Can you describe what's differnt from a normal "cheap" trigger assembly

EDIT: From what I understand single stage are best for fast action shooting and two stage are best for target/precision applications.

Yeah! Find someone who has one and give it a try.

[fairfaxjim]

It has two stages (imagine that!). The first is very light and allows you to take up the slack in the trigger. The second is a somewhat heavier pull, but sometimes not by much, that is (or at least should be) very crisp and clean without any real perceptable movement. Standard trigger has one pull weight, usually (although a well tuned trigger can be amazingly crisp & smooth) has some creep or distance you have to pull before it releases, and may be rough or gritty feeling when taking up the creep.

Advantage is you always know exactly when the hammer will release, and your trigger pull is much smoother and consistant - result = better accuracy.

Go to a gun shop and try the trigger on a Savage with the accutrigger. That is similar to a two stage trigger, although it does have two triggers involved.

Some are adjustable for pull, as is the Savage, some are fixed weight (Rock River Arms 2 stage.)

[Jicko]

So what's the be deal? I've never used one. Are they worth the added cost?

Yes, YES, yes, and hell yes.

It's like driving the cheapest rental car.... verse.... a car that you would actually buy and drive daily....

[Got Stuff?]

Yes!

[dfletcher]

It has two stages (imagine that!). The first is very light and allows you to take up the slack in the trigger. The second is a somewhat heavier pull, but sometimes not by much, that is (or at least should be) very crisp and clean without any real perceptable movement. Standard trigger has one pull weight, usually (although a well tuned trigger can be amazingly crisp & smooth) has some creep or distance you have to pull before it releases, and may be rough or gritty feeling when taking up the creep.

Advantage is you always know exactly when the hammer will release, and your trigger pull is much smoother and consistant - result = better accuracy.

Go to a gun shop and try the trigger on a Savage with the accutrigger. That is similar to a two stage trigger, although it does have two triggers involved.

Some are adjustable for pull, as is the Savage, some are fixed weight (Rock River Arms 2 stage.)

Description's already been given and I agree. I like the RRA through AR15 Sales LLC for $88.00. Always drops in, easy stage one and crisp stage two. If you want a quick test, check out a Mini 14, M1A or Garand. They're not as nice as the RRA on an AR, but you'll get the picture.

[anyracoon]

Once you use one you'll want to put tem on the rest of your lowers.

[randy]

For the money the RRA two stage trigger is way better than Mil Spec. There are many single stage triggers out there that are way better than the RRA but...... you are going to spend a bunch more money.

[RobT2K]

I spent about $45 on a trigger job by someone that was highly regarded on ARF.com and did a side by side with my friends AR15 w/a Timney trigger and they felt very close to the same while shooting. So close that I couldn't see spending the extra money on the timney trigger for my uses.

[ar15barrels]

I spent about $45 on a trigger job by someone that was highly regarded on ARF.com and did a side by side with my friends AR15 w/a Timney trigger and they felt very close to the same while shooting. So close that I couldn't see spending the extra money on the timney trigger for my uses.

Just wait until you put a few thousand rounds through that trigger job.
Then you will know why the Timney costs more.

[TonyKat]

Just wait until you put a few thousand rounds through that trigger job.
Then you will know why the Timney costs more.

Is Timney the best?

[ar15barrels]

Is Timney the best?

That's like asking if a Corvette is the best supercar...

I would not say that.
It's just one of a few very good options.

[TonyKat]

That's like asking if a Corvette is the best supercar...

I would not say that.
It's just one of a few very good options.

What are those other options?

[sb_pete]

So what's the be deal? I've never used one. Are they worth the added cost?

Heck yeah, worth every penny. RRA two stage bought as a package deal with an LPK ($140 for both the trigger and the LPK @ Lanworld) is the best bang for buck.

The only reason any right minded person (IMHO of course) might not want a two stage trigger is for high-stress police/mil/tactical situations. The reasoning is that an operator will tend to take up the slack in anticipation of shots. This leaves a very short and light trigger pull remaining. This could lead to AD's. This whole scenario can be dealt with by training though I would think.

I'll go out on a limb and say that when shooting from field positions, A two stage trigger will improve the average shooter's groups more than free floating the barrel or any other thing you might spend money on (other than training).

Is Timney the best?

Depends on who you ask. If money is no object, check out the Timney, Geissele, Jewell, Accuracy Speaks, and Chip McCormick and buy whichever YOU like best.

If you have a budget, but the RRA.