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  • waltmoe
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 27

    Buffer tube-What to get

    Does anyone know the difference between a Mil and Commercial buffer tube. Will either fit on a Bushmaster lower. I am possibly installing a MagPul and I see they make a Commercial or Mil spec that requires the appropriate buffer.

    Is there a need for a different buffer that most manufactures offer. I noticed you can get different buffers, for what reason when used on a carbine configuration.
  • #2
    ohsmily
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2005
    • 8934

    You should get a receiver extension.

    Btw, both "milspec" and "commercial" receiver extensions will fit in all AR type receivers.

    If you had a choice of the two, I would get a mil-spec tube because many stock manufacturers make their tubes solely for the mil-spec dimensions.
    Last edited by ohsmily; 11-10-2008, 9:31 AM.
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    • #3
      chee_seen
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 186

      Waltmoe,
      The Milspec has a smaller diameter buffer tube then the Commerical version. You can fit both milspec and commercial stocks over a milspec buffer tube but the commercial will be a bit loose. A milspec stock will be too small to fit the larger commerical buffer tube. And yes, a commercial or milspec buffer tube will fit your bushmaster lower.

      I like the stronger commercial version because of the extra thickness of the tube.

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      • #4
        paladin4415
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 814

        Originally posted by chee_seen
        Waltmoe,
        I like the stronger commercial version because of the extra thickness of the tube.
        You might want to re-read whatever brought you to that conclusion. The commercial extension is simply larger in diameter so that can be threaded in a cheaper way. The Mil-Spec extension is held to a higher strength standard.
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        • #5
          kakpataka
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 1357

          Originally posted by paladin4415
          You might want to re-read whatever brought you to that conclusion. The commercial extension is simply larger in diameter so that can be threaded in a cheaper way. The Mil-Spec extension is held to a higher strength standard.
          plus it cost twice as much to get a milspec...
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          • #6
            Fate
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 9545

            Stole this from arf.com

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            • #7
              Ballistic043
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1704

              Originally posted by paladin4415
              You might want to re-read whatever brought you to that conclusion. The commercial extension is simply larger in diameter so that can be threaded in a cheaper way. The Mil-Spec extension is held to a higher strength standard.
              mind telling us the strength (not measurements) of the commercial vs the milspec? im curious how one would test the strength between the two
              Last edited by Ballistic043; 11-10-2008, 3:44 PM.

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              • #8
                kakpataka
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 1357

                I think milspecs are made from 1 piece.....therefore the they cost more plus being built from one piece , they would obviously be stronger.
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                • #9
                  Ballistic043
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1704

                  i never noticed a seam on my commercial tubes. where exactly would the two pieces be joined?

                  lots i never knew about a simple piece of metal

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                  • #10
                    kakpataka
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1357

                    Per, Randall:
                    Mil-spec are machined from a forging ,
                    Commercial are made from extrusions.
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                    • #11
                      Lon Moer
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 653

                      The actual, original, reason that are were two different styles was that Colt had the patent and the military contract when the CAR receiver extension was developed. And when other companies went to make the product for the civilian markets, they had to alter the dimensions just enough to be different. And that set a 'standard' for the commercial market for many years.
                      But, now the patents have expired and many different companies other than just Colt have military contracts, so now there is the two different sizes.

                      So, first decide what stock you want. Most of the high end stocks, MagPul, ect., come in both sizes, and most commercial stocks come as complete kit
                      I have a couple of rigs with both sizes of extensions, it just depends on what kind of stock you want to use. And if you really want to heavy duty, ACE Ltd makes a commercial size "Super Heavy Duty" extension.
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                      • #12
                        happy_gunner
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 777

                        go to Riflegear.com, they have complete Mapul stocks, come with everything you need.

                        Wow, that ACE stuff is serious, no playing around there

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                        • #13
                          evollep3
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 3074

                          so a commericial stock will fit a milspec tube? without any probs?

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                          • #14
                            40caldeserteagle
                            Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 135

                            Originally posted by evollep3
                            so a commericial stock will fit a milspec tube? without any probs?
                            Scroll back up to post 6. The commercial receiver extension (buffer tube) has a larger diameter then the mil-spec tube.

                            David F.

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                            • #15
                              Gryff
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              • May 2006
                              • 12679

                              If you have the lower and the mil-spec Magpul CTR stock, what do you need in terms of receiver extension/buffer assembly, etc. Should an AR newbie buy the parts individually or get a "complete assembly" (and from what source)?
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