Trip to Ade's: Why he won't sell bullet buttons...

[ohsmily]

I had something today up in vacaville shooting range, I brought the AR out and was told that me having a BB was illegal and that my AR would not be allowed there. I asked where he got this info, and he told me that he called the DOJ and they said that it was illegal because the mag was not "permant fixed". This state is very irritating, I can not wait to get orders.

What range is this? Guns and Fishing? They are not OLL tolerant. Worse, they spread BS and state they are illegal rather than simply state that they choose not to do any business concerning them.

[busarich]

What range is this? Guns and Fishing? They are not OLL tolerant. Worse, they spread BS and state they are illegal rather than simply state that they choose not to do any business concerning them.

Yeah it was them. I am not sure of the brand but they had a AR15 on the shelf forsale, but it might not have been a OLL.

[drankhpnotic22]

NO NO NO. The whole point of the BB is to allow you to remove the fixed magazine with the use of a tool (and be legal with an empty magazine well). Read more, post less. Read the flow chart. There is a link in the blue bar above.

hey buddy im just tryin to make sure i got my bases covered!!!!! and get outta here with that post less bs!!!!!!

[Clodbuster]

There's a Youtube video of an ex-DOJ agent saying the BB is legal. You can record that on tape and hand it to the owner as well.


Clod

I am going to print that out and let the owner of the facility take a gander.

[ohsmily]

Yeah it was them. I am not sure of the brand but they had a AR15 on the shelf forsale, but it might not have been a OLL.

It was probably a sealed magazine well Bushmaster or FAB10 or an epoxied magazine.

Like I said, it is there prerogative to choose not to sell OLLs, etc. BUT, they are morons for spreading the wrong information about the law and the legality of said items.

[Ballistic043]

what exactly does this mean.

"that it will not issue, use, enforce, or attempt to enforce the alleged underground regulation you challenged, except on a case by case basis as permitted by tidewater marine western, inc. v. bradshaw (1996)14 Ca.4th 557, 572."

so this means they can enforce an underground regulation depending on the circumstances of the case? then that would mean any of us are potential targets.

[busarich]

It was probably a sealed magazine well Bushmaster or FAB10 or an epoxied magazine.

Like I said, it is there prerogative to choose not to sell OLLs, etc. BUT, they are morons for spreading the wrong information about the law and the legality of said items.

Agreed.

[Ballistic043]

does anyone care to comment on the type in bold? it sure does sound discouraging

[hoffmang]

what exactly does this mean.

"that it will not issue, use, enforce, or attempt to enforce the alleged underground regulation you challenged, except on a case by case basis as permitted by tidewater marine western, inc. v. bradshaw (1996)14 Ca.4th 557, 572."

so this means they can enforce an underground regulation depending on the circumstances of the case? then that would mean any of us are potential targets.

It's Alison trying hard to violate California law. She's estopped by agreeing not to enforce the rule under the Administrative Procedures Act - regardless of her "caveat." I'll put it this way - either she's estopped or she forced Jerry Brown to commit perjury in an attempt to violate rights under the Constitution - a crime in Federal and State law.

-Gene

[yamahard]

What range is this? Guns and Fishing? They are not OLL tolerant. Worse, they spread BS and state they are illegal rather than simply state that they choose not to do any business concerning them.

I live very close to this establishment and have been there several times. These guys are ignorant. Their prices on firearms are high. Their prices on ammo are high. Hell their prices on everything are high.
They are definately not OLL freindly. I personally will not take my business there any longer. What did it for me was an incident over the weekend that I witnessed while I was just looking around at some pistols on the wall.
A woman comes in seeking help with her newly purchased pistol that was having problems. One of the older guys upstairs takes it and looks at it then starts berating her on how dirty it was and no wonder it wouldn't work. He was really being down right mean to her while she was trying to explain the problem and the fact that she had just shot it a little bit that morning.
Their shop sucks and is not at all freindly like the old Guns and Gear store was.
Next time I need something I think I will try Bullseye instead. And no, I don't know anybody from Bullseye or anything like that. He just appears to be a standup guy.
Thank you.

[busarich]

Yeah i will not be back there.

[10TH AMENDMENT]

It was probably a sealed magazine well Bushmaster or FAB10 or an epoxied magazine.

Like I said, it is there prerogative to choose not to sell OLLs, etc. BUT, they are morons for spreading the wrong information about the law and the legality of said items.

Sorry about the gramer error!

Originally Posted by jumbopanda
Fail.

GOTCHA!!!!