Trip to Ade's: Why he won't sell bullet buttons...

[CAL.BAR]

How much would it cost to take it all the way? 10k? A 100k? Ballpark estimates would be nice. Thanks.

I or any other crim def atty (with pro gun leanings) should be able to take that case to trial for approx 5K-10K + whatever you may have to pay weapons expert(s) to come testify. I suspect if there are any in the area, they may reduce their rates if they are on the right team

[Chunky_lover]

I try to play it safe by always keeping a empty mag in the rifle at the range or when transporting it, and at home. At the range if im not loading a full mag in it I have an empty mag popped in at all times. That way hopefully I wont get hassled by the authorities. I think someone should make a part for the magwell where you also need the same tool to insert and remove the mag, maybe if we had something like that there is no way a mag can be inserted without a tool.

[hawk1]

I try to play it safe by always keeping a empty mag in the rifle at the range or when transporting it, and at home. At the range if im not loading a full mag in it I have an empty mag popped in at all times. That way hopefully I wont get hassled by the authorities. I think someone should make a part for the magwell where you also need the same tool to insert and remove the mag, maybe if we had something like that there is no way a mag can be inserted without a tool.

Sounds nice, but if they are ignorant of the law and willing to bust you for using a tool to remove they'll also do it for using a tool to attach...
Besides the law is what it is. Specifically written for the use of a tool to detach as in the SKS.

[Chunky_lover]

Another thing why we should be able to have some sort of removable mag with the ar type rifles with all the EVIL FEATURES is when there is a problem and you cant shotgun the rifle open because you have a sealed or welded mag, and the bolt is back in the stock, at least you can remove the mag and hopefully fix it without having a loaded rifle. Its a safety thing. Im not sure when storing it if you can have the magwell open ( I always keep a mag in it) but it would be nice because you can use a cable lock through the magwell and ejection port to really secure it and keep someone from taking it apart and swapping uppers to use it.

[busarich]

I had something today up in vacaville shooting range, I brought the AR out and was told that me having a BB was illegal and that my AR would not be allowed there. I asked where he got this info, and he told me that he called the DOJ and they said that it was illegal because the mag was not "permant fixed". This state is very irritating, I can not wait to get orders.

[andrewj]

I had something today up in vacaville shooting range, I brought the AR out and was told that me having a BB was illegal and that my AR would not be allowed there. I asked where he got this info, and he told me that he called the DOJ and they said that it was illegal because the mag was not "permant fixed". This state is very irritating, I can not wait to get orders.

Did someone who worked at the range tell you that? The law desnt say anything about a mag needing to be permanent, right? It just cant be "removed readily". People really piss me off sometimes.

[hoffmang]

Oaklander and I destroyed the DOJ BoF's so called permanence requirement here.

-Gene

[shark92651]

Yeah, somebody is spreading old FUD. The least they could do is come up with some original FUD

[busarich]

The owner is the one who told me that.

[andrewj]

The owner is the one who told me that.

Then that pisses me off even more

[busarich]

Oaklander and I destroyed the DOJ BoF's so called permanence requirement here.

-Gene

I am going to print that out and let the owner of the facility take a gander.

[Moonclip]

12. I can't say why I'm confident of this statement, but if someone got in trouble for using the bullet button, DOJ BoF didn't have anything to do with it.

I suggest you tell Ade's to call one of us - including one of the lawyers - or ask him to please stop spreading FUD. If someone got convicted with a bullet button and no other crime, we want his appeal.

-Gene

+10000000000000 Seems VERY FUDish to me... Something is not adding up here.

[drankhpnotic22]

so is it a felony if u drop the mag out with th bb equiped on your rifle??? and if so how would u reload an ak with that type of fixed mag?????

[dchang0]

so is it a felony if u drop the mag out with th bb equiped on your rifle??? and if so how would u reload an ak with that type of fixed mag?????

No! Read the thread--it is perfectly legal to drop the mag when you are using a bullet button. Ade's MISTAKEN claim is that it is not legal--we are trying to figure out the truth of the matter.

[ohsmily]

so is it a felony if u drop the mag out with th bb equiped on your rifle??? and if so how would u reload an ak with that type of fixed mag?????

NO NO NO. The whole point of the BB is to allow you to remove the fixed magazine with the use of a tool (and be legal with an empty magazine well). Read more, post less. Read the flow chart. There is a link in the blue bar above.