Bullet button vs Featureless

[CK_32]

The window wrap helps a lot imo

O-M-G!


As much as a I hate featureless, that might be going on my LR308!

[CK_32]

My issue with featureless is that it is much more difficult to maintain control of the rifle with just your firing hand (like when opening a doorknob with your support hand) unless you have a thordsen, hammerhead or u15 style stock.

For home defense, I think you are better off with a gun that is naturally "featureless" such as an su16, mini14, Ares scr, etc rather than fumbling with a rifle with "compromised" ergonomics.

For recreational or hunting purposes, a featureless set up is a matter of preference.

Regardless, whatever option you go for home defense, train with it in that setup.

And this is sound advice^

[BigBamBoo]

For the visually stimulated amongst us...I give you the "BBB BBB" (BigBamBoo's Bad@ss Black Blaster) 9mm featureless AR:

[Standard]

My issue with featureless is that it is much more difficult to maintain control of the rifle with just your firing hand (like when opening a doorknob with your support hand) unless you have a thordsen, hammerhead or u15 style stock.

For home defense, I think you are better off with a gun that is naturally "featureless" such as an su16, mini14, Ares scr, etc rather than fumbling with a rifle with "compromised" ergonomics.

For recreational or hunting purposes, a featureless set up is a matter of preference.

Regardless, whatever option you go for home defense, train with it in that setup.

I've gotta agree with all of this.

[kuyakwiet]

I converted my SCAR 16S to featureless with a kydex grip wrap and do not regret it at all. I got a lot of criticism from everyone in my group about it. However, once I went out and shot it at the range and did some drills with it, I was surprised how little difference it made, if at all. And the radlock on the scar is not as easy to convert as on the AR. The radlock on the scar means you have to take it off to revert it to out of state use. Going featureless I no longer have to worry about the radlock falling off from comming loose while shooting, from forgetting it when I come back into CA, or loosing the small radlock pieces while out of state.

[mif_slim]

For the visually stimulated amongst us...I give you the "BBB BBB" (BigBamBoo's Bad@ss Black Blaster) 9mm featureless AR:

What lower is that?! Awesomeness!!

[dh223]

I have no doubt the Thordsen is a nice stock. But, I didn't want to spend that type of money (especially with 6 rifles).

My rifle is pretty light. The Magpul fixed stock is very short. After the grip tape on the Solar Tactical wrap. I feel like I have excellent control of the weapon. In my mind, the grip wrap is a non issue. Maybe with a heavier gun it would be problematic. But, not in this case.

P.S. I only have 6 AR's because I gave 4 AR's to my son in Boise where they can run free without any of the retarded Kali feature things to worry about.

[BigBamBoo]

That is a Quarter Circle 10 Colt pattern lower. Info here: http://www.quartercircle10.com/shop/

I started with a DDLES Glock pattern lower (pictured below) as I have a bunch of Glock mags and carry a Glock. The idea of having a carbine that uses the same mags as my pistol was very appealing.

But....the last round hold open function never worked 100%. I spent days trying to get it working, but just about the time I thought I had it dialed in, it would fail to work. This is a very common problem with the Glock pattern lower and well documented. Between myself and a buddy, we built 5 Glock lower AR's and EVERY single one of them had problems with the last round hold open.
Most of them have by-passed the last round hold open. JP and Loanwolf's Glock lower do not have last round hold open for this reason.

So I went to the Colt pattern lower. 100% last round hold open 100% of the time.

This is my 3rd 9mm AR and they are just plain fun to shoot. The slow recoil impulse and lack of muzzle blast make them very popular with the women and kids.

[morthrane]

My issue with featureless is that it is much more difficult to maintain control of the rifle with just your firing hand (like when opening a doorknob with your support hand) unless you have a thordsen, hammerhead or u15 style stock.

Just to play devil's advocate, I don't find it that difficult. Featureless setups don't stop you from cradling the rifle against the inside of your elbow, or counterweighting the stock under your tricep. If it is that difficult... time to put your rifle on a diet or do some curls. It'd be no different than maintaining control of a plain jane shotgun.

Also, that's why we have slings.

[DaveFJ80]

Using a kydex grip wrap by itself doesn't feel that great in my hands. Not to mention, it's also very slippery feeling and hard to keep a good grip on my rifle.

What I did was lay some painters tape over my grip wrap and trim how I wanted it to look. Then took the tape and put it onto some skateboard tape and cut it out to shape. Used a hairdryer to make sure it stuck on there good, and perfecto. Easily removable with no sticky residue too.

Now my rifle feels good in my hand and is very controllable, and I like using my right hand thumb to engage & disengage the ambi safety. If skateboard tape it too rough for your delicate girly hands, then you can always use 3M rubber grip tape instead.

[SuperSet]

Grip tape on their kydex wraps is a good idea. I think the one thing the kydex wrap has over dedicated featureless stocks like the Thordsen is you can easily change it once you cross the border.

[geoint]

Yeah I don't know what I will do with my 30 rounders. I was thinking of storing them in a storage locker out of state. Won't really use them and for target practice I don't like using 30's because I shoot too much! I just want them somewhat close by if I wwere to ever need them at least they won't be half way across the country!

Quartzsite Arizona. Tons of people come down from northern states to spend their winters there so it has tons of storage facilities and its right on the AZ/CA border. If youre moving to northern california, there are probably other small border towns in Nevada that can serve the same purpose.

Personally, Id suggest you bring all your guns with you but leave standard capacity mags, spare ammo and a small SHTF supply cache at Quartzsite or at some relatively nearby storage location out of the state.