Next caliber?

[Bhobbs]

When did that happen?
It barely just came out!

I was just about to say the same thing.

[CSACANNONEER]

Is 17HMR and 17WSM the same?

No, they are two different cartridges that fire the same caliber projectile. Just like 30-30, .308, 30-06, 30 carbine, 300WM, 7.5 Swiss, etc. are all different cartridges that are all the same caliber.

Have you considered .22mag?

[CEDaytonaRydr]

CZ 527 is a 762x39

^^ This

Be advised that if you hand-load for 7.62x39mm, it can be a VERY precise caliber. I've loaded 110gr Speer Soft Points and gotten pretty decent results. More than adequate for CA Deer, as well.

[TomReloaded]

Savage axis in 223! the trigger is alright to good after you tinker with it for 15 minutes.

I never really thought ar mags on a bolt gun was any sort of benefit.

[IC Red]

I was thinking either 17HMR, 17WSM? or .223?

The hmr is a rimfire, the 17wsm is dead, and the .223/5.56nato is a good choice.

My brother has the MVP Predator model, thing is super accurate and pleasant to shoot. Hitting paper out to 300 is easy.

Surplus ammo is cheap, like 33cents a round and there are some good hunting rounds available for about a buck a round if you want to hunt coyotes.

[IEatZ28]

Only benefit I saw was I have a bunch of 10 round AR mags and a bunch of sitting .223. But I'm starting to enjoy the idea of 300 yards! Maybe I'll get one, ya know, to see if he will like it...

[RNE228]

22-250AckleyImproved

[REDdawn6]

Guys over on mossberg map forum are shooting the mvp out to 600yrds.

[REDdawn6]

The improved Savage Axis II has the accu-trigger.

[toby]

If you/he does not reload just remember when the A-holes start hoarding ammo for absolutely no reason other than selfishness 223 and 308 are the hardest and most expensive to get. But if you buy a few dozen boxes now it should last any sane shooter a good long time.

[IEatZ28]

I have a good amount of .223 I bought for my Saiga I never shoot but always say I'm gonna next trip hahah I think he's gonna go with the MVP or savage in .223

[skohl]

17HMR

The rifles and ammo are pretty cheap and the accuracy is phenomenal. They are so much fun to shoot it is unbelievable. I have .223/556, 30-30, 308, 357, 444, and 17HMR. I would say the Savage 17HMR is the most fun to shoot.
I just ordered 350 rounds for $90.48 shipped = .26 cents per round!

[Valleygun]

Rimfire vs centerfire

Stay away from the 17 wsm, I'm not overly impressed with that cartridge and ammo availability is terrible. The 17hmr is an excellent choice, I have a cz in that caliber and love it. No recoil to speak off and can watch your bullet impact on paper and varmints. The .223 is a lot of fun to, I reload so cost isn't an issue, although that being said factory ammo isn't pricey either unless you get into the match stuff. I have a remington 40x in .223 and it's certainly one of the most accurate firearms in my collection. Only complaint is that it's not a .222

[sfbay]

A bolt 223 sounds good.