Looking for a long range hunting/target rifle...

[adramalech916]

Hey so I was wondering about attaining a new bolt-action rifle. I want to be able to hit a target accurately out to 1,000 yards max. I am not trying to do too extreme of long range. Would like to be recommended something that is economical and accurate, less than 2" group @ 700-1000 yards.

I would also like this rifle to be a good hunting rifle. I was thinking chamber of .270, .30-06, 7mm, or .308.

What would be a good rifle scope for that range? I have heard that you get what you pay for in scopes and skimping on a more expensive scope might make it ineffective to shoot at anything long range. My effective cost range is something less than $500ish.

I had a friend recommend a savage 11/111 long range, and yet another swear by his Remington 700 as a very accurate rifle at 1000 yards.

Any suggests would be greatly appreciated.

[Switchbarrel]

Since you're right there in Rancho Cordova, go
to one of the monthly 1k BR matches held at Sac. Valley.
See what guns, calibers and group sizes are there and you'll
realize much of what you want to do and how you'd like
to do it just aren't realistic.

-Rick

[AeroEngi]

Hey so I was wondering about attaining a new bolt-action rifle. I want to be able to hit a target accurately out to 1,000 yards max. I am not trying to do too extreme of long range. Would like to be recommended something that is economical and accurate, less than 2" group @ 700-1000 yards.

I would also like this rifle to be a good hunting rifle. I was thinking chamber of .270, .30-06, 7mm, or .308.

What would be a good rifle scope for that range? I have heard that you get what you pay for in scopes and skimping on a more expensive scope might make it ineffective to shoot at anything long range. My effective cost range is something less than $500ish.

I had a friend recommend a savage 11/111 long range, and yet another swear by his Remington 700 as a very accurate rifle at 1000 yards.

Any suggests would be greatly appreciated.

I don't even think you can achieve 2" groups at 700-1000 yards with a fully-custom rifle, much less a $500 rifle.

[Dutch Henry]

Have you ever shot targets at 1,000 yards? A rifle built for that kind of shooting isn't a rifle you'll want to hunt with. An out of the box rifle will require extensive upgrades and modifications. You might consider starting with a Remington 40X and a decent set of optics to get you started.

The precision optics required will exceed your $500 cost range by a factor of about 5, at least.

Accuracy under 2" at 700 yards is very ambitious. I wish you good luck.

I'm sure that more knowledgeable target shooters on the forum will add their advice and comments that you will find useful.

[CSACANNONEER]

Would like to be recommended something that is economical and accurate, less than 2" group @ 700-1000 yards.

You're joking, right? Even if a rifle and ammo combination is capable of shooting .2moa at 1000 yards, that doesn't mean the shooter is or, even if the shooter is capable, it doesn't mean conditions will allow it. The funniest part of your post is that you want to an economical rifle to do it. You're looking at a custom rifle and years of learning to reload for it and shoot it.

Also, "accuracy" is a simple matter of sight adjustment. It really has nothing to do with a rifle's capabilities. I think you are looking for a rifle with the capability of shooting .2 moa precision not accuracy.



Another thing, a rifle capable of .2moa at 1000 is going to be too heavy/awkward to take hunting. You really need a dedicated BR rifle and then a separate hunting rifle to do what you are trying to do.

[CSACANNONEER]

I don't even think you can achieve 2" groups at 700-1000 yards with a fully-custom rifle, much less a $500 rifle.

The top shooters in the world can but not consistently. Of course, they are using bench rest systems that cost more than any "economical" rifle retails. I know guys that have more than a couple thousand dollars into just their rests and are happy to shoot 5"-8" groups at 1000.

[Untamed1972]

Hey so I was wondering about attaining a new bolt-action rifle. I want to be able to hit a target accurately out to 1,000 yards max. I am not trying to do too extreme of long range. Would like to be recommended something that is economical and accurate, less than 2" group @ 700-1000 yards.
I would also like this rifle to be a good hunting rifle. I was thinking chamber of .270, .30-06, 7mm, or .308.

What would be a good rifle scope for that range? I have heard that you get what you pay for in scopes and skimping on a more expensive scope might make it ineffective to shoot at anything long range. My effective cost range is something less than $500ish.

I had a friend recommend a savage 11/111 long range, and yet another swear by his Remington 700 as a very accurate rifle at 1000 yards.

Any suggests would be greatly appreciated.

1 MOA is 10" at 1000yrds
1/2 MOA would still be 5"

You're not gonna get anywhere near that for $500, scope alone for a rifle like that will run you a couple grand prolly.

And most of what goes into making a super accurate 1000yd rifle....tend to make them not very great hunting rifles.

[bubbapug1]

Buy a tikka. Nobody can shoot 2" groups at 1000 yards, let alone 700.

An out of the box 7mm tikka in free recoil with good match ammo in No wind with great optics can shoot sub 0.5 Moa. They are light, cheap, durable, and accurate.

Than buy a recoil pillow or a sandbag to absorb the punishing kick of 7mm in a 6.5 pound gun. Or buy a five pound scope.

[xXRifleManXx]

Buy a 10/22 and put a ncstar scope on it. You can hunt polar bears in Africa at 500 yards with that SOB....Seriously.


Actually what I recommend before you go that route is this.

Take your $500 and go get a new or used Ruger American or similar rifle in .308 or 30-06, 30-06 if your actually going to reload down the line.

Then go buy an semi auto 22lr, pick your flavor

You should be right around your budget.
Go sign up for a Appleseed weekend and learn how to shoot. And discover what you and any given combination of rifle are capable of.

If your still looking to hit targets out at the 1000 yard mark after that then go drop five grand on a simi custom rifle and a some more dough on a quality scope.

Good luck

[xXRifleManXx]

The gun doesn't matter a tenth of what the rifleman behind it does.
You could take any long-range shooters set up and still not hit at a 1000.

[CSACANNONEER]

http://www.6mmbr.com/page/page/1309618.htm

Lee and Sherri are freinds of mine but, they don't shoot $500 set ups

http://fcsa.org/visitors/worldrecords.php

http://nbrsa.org/nbrsa-records

Remember that these are world records and not just a regular group for these elite shooters.

Here's an old thread on the subject. Note the mention of 70lb rifles (those are 6mm, .30cal, etc.). Most 50BMG BR rifles don't weigh more than 50lbs or so.

[lewdogg21]

Your super long range target gun will not be something you will want to hunt with after the first trip. A 12lb rifle is not something to hump up and down the mountain all day. If you are serious you will need two guns.

[milotrain]

This is the best thread ever.

[Fjold]

I have an 8.5 Lb rifle that I built for $1,600 and then put a $1,300 scope on top, 10 years ago. I shot a 9.4", 20 shot group with it, once.

Once you get past 600 yards, even with a 1/2 minute rifle, the quality of your ammunition and your ability to read the changing conditions will be the determining factors of long range accuracy.

[michaelthetrojan]

so i just bought the new hi -point bolt rifle, im thinking of putting a ziess scope on it.