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  • #16
    Divernhunter
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 8753

    223. A 22RF once ammo is back.
    Get an entry level rifle or better. Savage, Ruger American, Mossberg, Weatherby Vanguard, Rem(not a 770 or 710).
    A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
    NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
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    • #17
      DRPoolio
      Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 287

      **Update**

      So after some poking around I have come across a Savage Model 10 and Axis XP. Direct comparisons don't jump out from a quick google search.

      Anyone care to differentiate the 2?

      Much appreciated.

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      • #18
        MongooseV8
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 4426

        The axis is the economy version but still a decent rifle. Spend the extra clams on the model 10.

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        • #19
          OldShooter32
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2062

          .17

          Originally posted by MongooseV8
          A 17hmr might be a better choice then. You can find them for $0.20 a round still and its all quality ammo. Very capable of shooting tiny groups at 150+ yards, just watchout for wind!
          ^^ This -- I can shoot my .17 HMR for hours at 1/10th what my .308 costs to run, and shooting .17 at 100 with a light wind is like shooting the .308 at 600+ as far as wind doping and shooting challenge.
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          • #20
            CobraRed
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 1018

            Originally posted by DRPoolio
            So after some poking around I have come across a Savage Model 10 and Axis XP. Direct comparisons don't jump out from a quick google search.

            Anyone care to differentiate the 2?

            Much appreciated.
            Good question, if you're looking at these rifles you're on the right track.

            The 10 series is more the precision rifle platform comparative to the Remington 700. It's going to come in multiple variations, barrel lengths, twists, muzzle devises, drop magazines and shoot precision groups out of the box. This model has a ton of room for aftermarket upgrades and many people like swap barrels and cartridges on them often.

            The axis is their more the little brother of the 10 and is often marketed as a hunting rifle. It will still shoot 1moa (many have said under 1 MOA although I haven't personally seen it [doesn't mean it's not true]), and 1 moa in the 20th century means precision rifle, but now-a-days accuracy is somewhat attainable in comparison and the Savage 10's just offer more capability but come with the extra price tag. You can pick up an Axis with a rail, rings and scope on the cheap - making is a very good rifle for the money.

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            • #21
              HK Dave
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2008
              • 5737

              Originally posted by MongooseV8
              You have that backwards. Its still tough to find 22lr ammo and its almost the same price as bulk 223 ammo when you do.

              Shooting at 100 yards with a 22lr can be very frustrating for a new shooter. I love my 22's but a bolt action 223 is the right choice in this case.
              Had no idea 22lr was hard to find.

              Wow... so the 20K rounds i'm sitting on, must be worth something.

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              • #22
                Sutcliffe
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2003
                • 6792

                More features w/ model 10

                Both rifles are excellent. The 10 will have an Accu-Trigger and possibly an Accu-Stock(likely depends on the stock-they don't make wood Accu-Stocks). Package deals are convenient, but pay attention to who makes the scope. I'd rather pay extra for good glass than get stuck with an inferior scope.

                Savage rifles are for idiots.
                What I meant by that is this:
                They are simple to work on yourself. There is a whole industry of aftermarket parts to thoroughly customize them.

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                • #23
                  DRPoolio
                  Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 287

                  There's a used 10 out there pre Accu trigger

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                  • #24
                    DennisCA
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 4058

                    Originally posted by HK Dave
                    Bolt action 22lr if you plan on shooting often.

                    If you only go a few times a year, go 223 or 308.

                    +1

                    However I would stick to either a bolt rifle in .22 or .223, I think a .308 is a bit much to start out with. Also when begin shooting don't start at 100 yards, IMHO it's best to start out at 25 or 50 yards. Go out with a experienced shooter, get the fundamentals down 1st.

                    As far as gun goes, just do some research, it's going to depend on your budget.
                    "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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                    • #25
                      jben
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2026

                      If you want to start off cheap and have a ton of fun, get a Mosin and a crate of ammo.

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                      • #26
                        MongooseV8
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4426

                        Originally posted by HK Dave
                        Had no idea 22lr was hard to find.

                        Wow... so the 20K rounds i'm sitting on, must be worth something.
                        Yup $50 a brick is about the going rate for trash bulk ammo. You could retire! Lol

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                        • #27
                          RNE228
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2458

                          Appleseed... go to Appleseed shoot.

                          Originally posted by DennisCA
                          Also when begin shooting don't start at 100 yards, IMHO it's best to start out at 25 or 50 yards. Go out with a experienced shooter, get the fundamentals down 1st.

                          As far as gun goes, just do some research, it's going to depend on your budget.

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                          • #28
                            kingcole
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 26

                            Need help identifying rifle

                            Hi my name is Cole. I want to start out by stating that Im new to shooting. I have always been drawn to guns but growing up i only owned air-soft, bb, and pellet guns. I recently inherited some guns and i need help identifying and pricing a rifle that I don't plan on using much. I know that it was my grandfathers old hunting rifle and it has a custom octagon barrel chambered for a 300 weatherby 7mm. I have a few rounds and a lot of reloads but I have been warned that this gun is going to be expensive to shoot and very hard to find factory made ammo. I am way more interested in a have some other rifle good for target shooting. I have a few 22lr guns so I also want something with a bigger caliber. I am particularly interested in lever guns at the moment. All that aside can anyone help me identify this gun and help me get a ball-park price range for me. Any suggestions on a target rifle would be appreciated also. I will try to post some pictures, but this is my first attempt at a post in a forum.
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                            • #29
                              SoberClurichaun
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1437

                              Since 22 is still difficult to find I would just go with a 5.56/223 bolt for a first.
                              "The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny."
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                              • #30
                                DRPoolio
                                Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 287

                                Originally posted by OldShooter32
                                ^^ This -- I can shoot my .17 HMR for hours at 1/10th what my .308 costs to run, and shooting .17 at 100 with a light wind is like shooting the .308 at 600+ as far as wind doping and shooting challenge.
                                **Update**

                                Looks like this is the direction I'm interested in. I just don't want to go through the endless pursuit of the .22 ammo search. I've also got a friend that can't say enough about his .17.

                                I'm thinking some sales may be upcoming with the onset of fall hunting season? Any experience with this?

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