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  • #16
    Hank15
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 995

    Maybe I am not hearing it or something...how do we know he hit the target at 1000?

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    • #17
      sl0re10
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7242

      Originally posted by Hank15
      Maybe I am not hearing it or something...how do we know he hit the target at 1000?
      With the big scope, sand bag, laying prone, a target that shows where your hitting even if you miss it, front wood pyramid thing, and someone spotting; how could he not?

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      • #18
        penguinofsleep
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 2068

        this tells me there is a lot more that can be done in terms of actually addressing the engineering problems facing small arms than just "buying a bigger barrel" or "make it match grade" (for a ridiculously un-proportional amount of work and hence costs).

        too bad the market for new engineering resolving these old issues would be way too difficult to enter after decades of snake-oil salesmen and lack of money being spent by mil on small arms dev... even i myself don't want to believe what they did to the barrel helps anything despite seeing a video clearly showing that it probably has a lot to do with everything that worked out here.

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        • #19
          thacker8394
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 39

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          The stock he made is quite appropriate to the action he installed in it...
          Are the new Savage actions realy that bad? I was under the impression that the newer ones were pritty good/ accurate.

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          • #20
            MongooseV8
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 4426

            Nope. He doesn't make any money swapping barrels or bolt work or trigger work on a Savage, so he talks trash about them. He suggests getting a Remington 700 because they are "better."

            Regular Savages with the accutrigger are solid out of the box.

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            • #21
              missiondude
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 1646

              That's a game changer right there...
              sigpicThe right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The original common sense gun law...

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              • #22
                Untamed1972
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2009
                • 17579

                So much for a free floating barrel aye? LOL
                "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                Quote for the day:
                "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                • #23
                  Epaphroditus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 4888

                  If the wood is pressure treated what's the problem? You don't want termites or dry rot do you?
                  CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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                  • #24
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57118

                    Originally posted by thacker8394
                    Are the new Savage actions realy that bad? I was under the impression that the newer ones were pritty good/ accurate.
                    Savage rifles have always been accurate.
                    Accuracy is only one of many important factors in selecting a rifle though.
                    Mechanical reliability and function should also be considered as well as aftermarket support if you want to customize it.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #25
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57118

                      Originally posted by MongooseV8
                      Nope. He doesn't make any money swapping barrels or bolt work or trigger work on a Savage, so he talks trash about them.
                      False.
                      Lots of people bring me savage rifles to work on.
                      I talk trash about them because they are inferior rifles.
                      Anyone who shoots them enough will eventually run into their shortcomings and figure it out on their own.

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                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #26
                        Cypriss32
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 5963



                        Had that rifle and a few like it. That thing shot everything very good. And talk about cheap (less then 1500.00 with a FFP Premier Leupold), it was ALL aftermarket. But I had issues with extraction, and other stuff. My friend also has a few savages. He took his 30-06 to alaska (it was the old 110 cheapo 299.99 package). It rusted on the outside, and the safety rusted shut on the on position. I currently have 1 savage rifle left, a 375 ruger guide gun. It is a good rifle and has really good reviews. It was exactly what I wanted. I am not a fan of rugers scope mounting setup so a short 375 this was the ONLY choice. I would take it anywhere and do anything. It has a duracoat paint job though.
                        Last edited by Cypriss32; 12-09-2013, 10:52 AM.
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                        • #27
                          thacker8394
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 39

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          Savage rifles have always been accurate.
                          Accuracy is only one of many important factors in selecting a rifle though.
                          Mechanical reliability and function should also be considered as well as aftermarket support if you want to customize it.
                          So I have the following gun and would some input on what i should look out for.

                          Built on a model 12 Precision Target Action with Shilen barrel and is currently off at Manners composite stocks having a T4a fitted. Before the gun went to them i put exactly 2k rounds through it all tuned loads and it seemed prity smooth and very very accurate for a home built gun. Average groups before i sent it off were 1.1 inch at 300 yards. Its chambered in .308 but when i shoot this barre out i will be moving up to 6.5x47. Just curious what you have seen.

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                          • #28
                            vintagearms
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 6841

                            Originally posted by MongooseV8
                            Nope. He doesn't make any money swapping barrels or bolt work or trigger work on a Savage, so he talks trash about them. He suggests getting a Remington 700 because they are "better."

                            Regular Savages with the accutrigger are solid out of the box.
                            Haven't had the bolt de-cocking issue yet, huh? Sticking bolt either?

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                            • #29
                              thacker8394
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 39

                              Originally posted by vintagearms
                              Haven't had the bolt de-cocking issue yet, huh? Sticking bolt either?
                              Mine had a sticky bolt when new. I figured it was because the crapy LC brass that i shot through a M240 the week before. Since i have been using exclusivly Lapua brass it has been very smooth.

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                              • #30
                                postal
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 4566

                                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                                Savage rifles have always been accurate.
                                Accuracy is only one of many important factors in selecting a rifle though.
                                Mechanical reliability and function should also be considered as well as aftermarket support if you want to customize it.
                                While all the above is true.... I would point out that at least 3 rifles had trigger issues at the SCPRC Sat/Sun.... 2?-3? Jewell triggers and one rem trigger had severe issues dealing with the rain and dirt. The Rem trigger locked up and the competitor had to completely drop out of the match. The 2?-3? jewells were able to continue limping along.

                                One guy with the jewell that told me about it... said he'd pull the trigger, and 3 seconds later it might fire... Then, pull the trigger, wait..... jiggle the bolt, and it would fire.

                                My savage ran as reliably as usual except it did bounce a spent case into the bolt raceway and stuck- that had to be pulled out by hand- This is now the second time that happened. I've read the weak ejection is easily fixed by a new designed ejector and spring that is now standard on savage- I'm ordering the parts soon.

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