Long Rang Shooting

[russ69]

Yep you should see my panel......... All the resellers, *******s, leftists, and idiots are blocked.

Who's left? I guess it makes for quicker reading?

[Cypriss32]

Who's left? I guess it makes for quicker reading?

Just you and Randall....... KISS. Duh?

[LynnJr]

Yet again showing a lack of attention to detail and comprehension, in that you seem to think an arbitrarily chosen and automatically applied appellation of a User's Status (based on post count) to a member's name somehow conveys anything other then a sense of humor on the part of the Board's designer.

I would hope that (though not entirely sure) you aren't trying to claim that the Board's underlying programming code is one of the "others" that are somehow on your side in this issue?

If it fits and in this case it does wear it.

You might read the post by Postal and give that a try.I would also recommend you get a 22 and shoot 10,000 rounds a year for three years before attending Randall's class.

Randall I hope this gives you a three year headstart.
LOLROFLMAO

[Steve_In_29]

Hey Steve in 29
I am not fixated with 10,000 rounds at all.You are the one posting here about buying 10,000 rounds and how you yourself shoot 10,000 rounds I just used YOUR example and most thought it was silly as did I.

I recommend zero rounds of 22 but for some reason you can't figure that out.

I am also fully capable of differentiating what is being said here.The OP wants to shoot longrange and you want him to learn fundamentals with a squirrel gun then after some arbitrary amount of time a lightbulb will go off above his head and it will suddenly be the right time to shoot longrange.

I want him to learn longrange by shooting longrange and you think that is impossible.

Once again a fail at comprehension on your part. No where did I (or others) say the OP would learn to shoot long-range by shooting a .22. Even more importantly, you are failing at comprehending the fact that the OP stated he had very little shooting experience period.

What I and others recommended was that he first spend time on a .22 to develop his basic marksmanship skills (sight alignment/sight picture/trigger control/breathing/natural point of aim/etc). Which are all ONLY developed by shooting (the more the better) and are the building blocks of successfully shooting at longer ranges. Something that is recognized by every branch of the military and all (non-savant) competition shooters, which only YOU are finding "silly". The mystical light bulb you mention would simply be his target, when it consistently shows a single hole group. Not a lot of thought needed there.

"Most people"?..unless you are counting the voices in your head, there was a single poster besides yourself that disagreed with the MAJORITY posting on this thread, who all espoused the .22 route. Hardly the definition of "most".

You have been irrationally, tilting-at-windmills through this whole thread, as not one poster has stated that it is "impossible to learn long-range by shooting long-range". We have all agreed that is in fact the ONLY way to learn long-range. You however seem to be locked-in-a-loop and unable to deviate from your parrot-like script when it comes to it being in the OP's best interest financially to FIRST master the basics of marksmanship (made much easier on an affordable platform) before moving on to learning the basics of shooting long-range with its exponentially higher outlay per shot.

None of us have even stated it is impossible to learn the basics of marksmanship by shooting something larger then a .22. Just that .22 is a MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE and accessible way to do so. I may be wrong but I would bet even you didn't spend your formative shooting years mastering the basics by shooting $2 a pop rounds like you are telling the OP to do.


Nice plaques, would actually mean something if they had a name or other identifying mark tying them to you though. Absent that it's just some random picture you found on the web to me and beyond that it's simply a logical fail as far as supporting your position, as they have no bearing on the discussion.

[Steve_In_29]

If it fits and in this case it does wear it.

You might read the post by Postal and give that a try.I would also recommend you get a 22 and shoot 10,000 rounds a year for three years before attending Randall's class.

Randall I hope this gives you a three year headstart.
LOLROFLMAO

There is definitely a village somewhere missing their idiot.

[ar15barrels]

Sounds like a great class. What is the cost?

Just for info I was wondering if you get many people in the class who have no real shooting experience? Is the first day's instruction aimed at actually learning the basics or just tuning the students up on what they already know?

Are the students encouraged/expected to get in some range practice time between attending each class?

I think they are $60 per day for members and $75 for non club members and that includes lunch.
We do it to help the shooters and cover range fees, not for the money.

We get a few really new shooters per class, but most people already have done bad habits to break.
Virgin shooters are actually easier to teach because they have no pre-conceived notions of how things work.
You can show them something, have them try it and if it works for them, they just stick to it.

We structure the clinics specifically so the shooters have homework between clinics and 2-3 weekends of time between clinics to get out and work on their own.

[Steve_In_29]

Thanks Randall. Was asking in case I ever had occasion to recommend the class to anyone.

[LynnJr]

We get a few really new shooters per class, but most people already have done bad habits to break.
Virgin shooters are actually easier to teach because they have no pre-conceived notions of how things work.

Winner winner Randall gets a chicken dinner.I couldn't agree more.Its also why woman tend to shoot very well.They don't have bad habits already and they don't think they know it all already so they listen to there coach/mentor.

The young guys who already know everything there is to know tend to be harder to teach and are easily spotted in a crowd.They are even easier to spot on an internet forum.