Long Rang Shooting

[FMJBT]

Strangely enough, that round they use for the "i" sure does seem to be a rimfire. Note the slight flare of the base. LOL

It does actually look like a .22 now that you mention it. I also like how they drew they guys mouth to have the same "OMG! I think I'm having a stroke!" lopsided snarl that Sylvester Stallone has. Oddly enough, after reading through most of this thread, thats about how half of my face feels as well. Pretty sure I felt something up in HQ go "pop!' about half a page ago....

[LynnJr]

Merc1138
You don't even know what headspace is and yet you think somebody out there actually cares about your opinion on longrange shooting? Really!!!!!
The OP is way out in front of you.
Merc1138
I need a LIFE!!
Again this truly says it all and it was put there for good reason someone is telling you something.

[Merc1138]

Merc1138
You don't even know what headspace is and yet you think somebody out there actually cares about your opinion on longrange shooting? Really!!!!!
The OP is way out in front of you.
Merc1138
I need a LIFE!!
Again this truly says it all and it was put there for good reason someone is telling you something.

And now you're starting to sound like a broken record.

[LynnJr]

And now you're starting to sound like a broken record.

Not really.
People here are seeking good sound advice from people familiar with the subject at hand.If you don't have knowledge of what the poster is after You really shouldn't post as that only confuses them further.
In this example I have many years of longrange shooting experience a sall amount of success and I am willing to take the poster shooting and teach him/her how it is done.
I see very few posters here with the willingness to actually help the poster with his/her desired goal yourself included.I see lots of posts about learning fundamentals at short distances hoping they will help this poster when he/she decides to do what they came here asking about.

You on the other hand don't understand basic reloading vocabulary and are not helping the original poster in any way.Are YOU willing to take the poster shooting?
Do you have the required equipment?
Do you have the skills?
If not your just wasting bandwith.

[Merc1138]

Not really.
People here are seeking good sound advice from people familiar with the subject at hand.If you don't have knowledge of what the poster is after You really shouldn't post as that only confuses them further.
In this example I have many years of longrange shooting experience a sall amount of success and I am willing to take the poster shooting and teach him/her how it is done.
I see very few posters here with the willingness to actually help the poster with his/her desired goal yourself included.I see lots of posts about learning fundamentals at short distances hoping they will help this poster when he/she decides to do what they came here asking about.

You on the other hand don't understand basic reloading vocabulary and are not helping the original poster in any way.Are YOU willing to take the poster shooting?
Do you have the required equipment?
Do you have the skills?
If not your just wasting bandwith.

Sorry, but at this point it really only looks like you volunteered just so you could show off. No, I don't setup bro-dates with random people from the internet. The fact that you can't even grasp the concept of what basic shooting fundamentals even are simply reinforces the point that you don't understand what you're talking about. Maybe you're one of those people who happens to have been a "natural", doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. You have taken it upon yourself to declare that everyone is somehow out to get you, and that no one believes your self proclaimed superior shooting skills. Whether you developed your attitude problem after years of shooting, or had it before you got started is irrelevant, but it's still a problem.

As far as "wasting bandwidth" goes, your troll thread and lame story about a lawsuit over a raffle isn't any better(btw, the OP doesn't seem to have come back either, nor do I blame him).

[FMJBT]

^^^^

Gahhhh!!! There it goes again..... "**** Pop! ****"

[ar15barrels]

I see very few posters here with the willingness to actually help the poster with his/her desired goal yourself included.I see lots of posts about learning fundamentals at short distances hoping they will help this poster when he/she decides to do what they came here asking about.

I help run precision rifle clinics where we start off with the fundamentals of marksmanship at 100yds and then take shooters out to 1000yds over 4 days of instruction.
The clinics are 1 day a month over four months in spring of each year.
By the end of the 4th clinic, the shooters have a solid foundation in precision and longrange rifle marksmanship.

The most important part of those 4 days is the 100yd fundamentals day.
That is the day where we see the most significant improvements in the shooters.
The second day is 200-600yds, spotting/calling shots, gathering hard dope, using ballistic calculators to generate soft dope and a little bit of mirage reading.
The 3rd day is unsupported and improvised positions such as shooting from barricades, out of cars, off of props etc...
The last day is all spent at 800, 900 & 1000 where they learn how to run pits, wind flags amd mirage and when to use/trust mirage vs. flags.

Just because you don't see me posting up in this thread offering to teach the guy does NOT mean that i am not actually out there helping new shooters...

[StraightShooter]

I help run precision rifle clinics where we start off with the fundamentals of marksmanship at 100yds and then take shooters out to 1000yds over 4 days of instruction.
The clinics are 1 day a month over four months in spring of each year.
By the end of the 4th clinic, the shooters have a solid foundation in precision and longrange rifle marksmanship.

The most important part of those 4 days is the 100yd fundamentals day.
That is the day where we see the most significant improvements in the shooters.
The second day is 200-600yds, spotting/calling shots, gathering hard dope, using ballistic calculators to generate soft dope and a little bit of mirage reading.
The 3rd day is unsupported and improvised positions such as shooting from barricades, out of cars, off of props etc...
The last day is all spent at 800, 900 & 1000 where they learn how to run pits, wind flags amd mirage and when to use/trust mirage vs. flags.

Just because you don't see me posting up in this thread offering to teach the guy does NOT mean that i am not actually out there helping new shooters...

Yep any new shooter who wants to learn long range marksmanship should hook up with Randall and the CAPRC. They will get you squared away.

[jakuda]

Look, one of the reasons people say to start with 22LR is that you don't have to worry about reloading and equipment to a large degree. And everything starts out cheap.

You can have success spending money on a centerfire rifle and all the ammo or reloading stuff now too, as long as you understand what to devote your energies to, which is trigger control. It's too easy for beginners to get sucked into conjuring up the best barrel, bullet, powder, scope, and all the stuff that people focus on instead of getting better.

*shrug*

[Cypriss32]

SoCal guys should go shoot with Caprc and the Brady bunch....

[postal]

SoCal guys should go shoot with Caprc and the Brady bunch....

CAPRC is a good start. There are others.

In norcal, is another group that does similar at a range around sacto. (I know you knew that- posting it up for others)

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On another topic.....

Currently I only have 1 single member 'blocked'.... that member ends in '..jr'-

Been blocked for some weeks now and life is so much more pleasant.

It's not hard to do, just go to your control panel... You'll be glad you did. I only see what he posts when someone else quotes it.

[Steve_In_29]

I help run precision rifle clinics where we start off with the fundamentals of marksmanship at 100yds and then take shooters out to 1000yds over 4 days of instruction.
The clinics are 1 day a month over four months in spring of each year.
By the end of the 4th clinic, the shooters have a solid foundation in precision and longrange rifle marksmanship.

The most important part of those 4 days is the 100yd fundamentals day.
That is the day where we see the most significant improvements in the shooters.
The second day is 200-600yds, spotting/calling shots, gathering hard dope, using ballistic calculators to generate soft dope and a little bit of mirage reading.
The 3rd day is unsupported and improvised positions such as shooting from barricades, out of cars, off of props etc...
The last day is all spent at 800, 900 & 1000 where they learn how to run pits, wind flags amd mirage and when to use/trust mirage vs. flags.

Just because you don't see me posting up in this thread offering to teach the guy does NOT mean that i am not actually out there helping new shooters...

Sounds like a great class. What is the cost?

Just for info I was wondering if you get many people in the class who have no real shooting experience? Is the first day's instruction aimed at actually learning the basics or just tuning the students up on what they already know?

Are the students encouraged/expected to get in some range practice time between attending each class?

[LynnJr]

Randall
You were one of the few in my earlier comment and I realize what you do for the shooting sports.
I shoot with Jerry Tierney who reset 22 records a couple years back has won the NBRSA Nationals several times and is the best wind reader I know.He credits his smallbore shooting with helping him reach the level he is at today and I respect his opinion as well.
I naturally do things my own way and think I can get a new shooter up to speed pretty quickly and after that start they can shoot and hopefully learn from there mistakes which is my biggest concern.
I don't advocate skipping the fundamentals I advocate learning them at your desired distance or distances.
As you already know most shooters have several barrels so they can practice or compete.
In my opinion I can get the new shooter who hasn't been misguided by others up to par quickly.If that same shooter has been internet taught I have a very difficult time as I have to de-program all of the myths first.

[Cypriss32]

CAPRC is a good start. There are others.

In norcal, is another group that does similar at a range around sacto. (I know you knew that- posting it up for others)

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On another topic.....

Currently I only have 1 single member 'blocked'.... that member ends in '..jr'-

Been blocked for some weeks now and life is so much more pleasant.

It's not hard to do, just go to your control panel... You'll be glad you did. I only see what he posts when someone else quotes it.

Yep you should see my panel......... All the resellers, *******s, leftists, and idiots are blocked.

[Steve_In_29]

Merc1138
I need a LIFE!!
Again this truly says it all and it was put there for good reason someone is telling you something.

Yet again showing a lack of attention to detail and comprehension, in that you seem to think an arbitrarily chosen and automatically applied appellation of a User's Status (based on post count) to a member's name somehow conveys anything other then a sense of humor on the part of the Board's designer.

I would hope that (though not entirely sure) you aren't trying to claim that the Board's underlying programming code is one of the "others" that are somehow on your side in this issue?