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  • protoolsnerd
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 788

    How to remove " bolt wobble " on Rem 700

    Hi Everyone,
    I've built up a great precision rifle on a Rem 700 platform.

    One thing i noticed that really gets to me is that the bolt can bind up if not operated directly backward and forward . It's that little bit of wiggle room that allows for it. I think of it as bolt wobble. But i know if it didn't have that amount of play it wouldn't have the chance to bind.

    What can I do to make that bolt to action fit tighter and make it easier to cock the firing pin and make for faster reloads.

    Do i need to get a new bolt? What manufacturers do you like ? Can i do fit it myself or does it require a gunsmith. I do some armorer things but i'm no gunsmith.

    Last edited by protoolsnerd; 07-08-2018, 10:32 PM.
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    NRA Cert. Pistol & Rifle Instructor / RSO
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  • #2
    ERdept
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2009
    • 4698

    Thats just the way the Remington is. The wobble is kinda meaningless, cause it's the lock up that counts.



    But, i agree, it was always bothersome to me and it did bind.

    It's inherent in the design but doesn't mean it's inaccurate. Just wobbles when on the way out and in.

    I like other bolt designs that have multiple locking lugs. They seem to support the bolt when unlocked and are smooth.

    But just as accurate or inaccurate as the Remington. They were just smoother.

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    • #3
      WHITE MAMBA
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 421

      Buy a Surgeon

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      • #4
        Bhobbs
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 11851

        You can have a gunsmith blue print your action and sleeve the bolt to fit better.

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        • #5
          jpscoot_21
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 1186

          I'm contemplating this wobble once I get my action trued, but not sleeved for a tighter bolt. I'm thinking of spraying the bolt and inside of receiver with some type of teflon paint that could wear in? I don't want to have to buy a PTG bolt, as to keep the build cost down.

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          • #6
            damon1272
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4857

            Pacific tool and die also sells oversized bolts to reduce the wobble. They make the bolts for remington.http://www.pacifictoolandgauge.com/p...gton.htm#bolts

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            • #7
              Iloveguns
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 868

              Have you tried lubing your bolt? Simple fix. Might help. My 700 was getting tight like that and I just put a little lube on it and it smoothed out.

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              • #8
                protoolsnerd
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 788

                Great suggestions. Yeah, the accuracy of my rifle is top notch. I couldn't be happier .

                But if you don't have that angle JUUUUUUST right your reloads can get a little sloppy . ERDept you know waht i mean. Kinda like maybe a ruger or sako. That fully supported feel during bolt cycling. Once that rem bolt closes it's like a vise .

                Thanks Damon.....i recall their bolts being really good too
                sigpic Aaron " The Gun Nerd "
                NRA Cert. Pistol & Rifle Instructor / RSO
                Instructor , Amorer , Class III enthusiast and part time builder

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                • #9
                  capitol
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2503

                  Originally posted by protoolsnerd
                  Yeah, the accuracy of my rifle is top notch. I couldn't be happier .


                  Show me homie

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                  • #10
                    protoolsnerd
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 788

                    Originally posted by Iloveguns
                    Have you tried lubing your bolt? Simple fix. Might help. My 700 was getting tight like that and I just put a little lube on it and it smoothed out.
                    The bolt, when at the right angle , is as fast as I am , no doubt faster if i were able . But , it's not forgiving of odd angles . Once that bolt is closed i'm gtg. I just figure i can speed up my reloads somehow .

                    So socal precision rifle club eh? I'm curious .......where do you guys meet, what do you shoot etc etc
                    sigpic Aaron " The Gun Nerd "
                    NRA Cert. Pistol & Rifle Instructor / RSO
                    Instructor , Amorer , Class III enthusiast and part time builder

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                    • #11
                      protoolsnerd
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 788

                      Originally posted by capitol


                      Show me homie
                      HAHAHAAH ok here you go

                      This was at 100 yards bench. 168 gr SMK HPBT. The pasters were on 3 zeroing shots and then 7 rounds under a quarter . T'was a fine day at angeles!!

                      Last edited by protoolsnerd; 07-08-2018, 10:32 PM.
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                      NRA Cert. Pistol & Rifle Instructor / RSO
                      Instructor , Amorer , Class III enthusiast and part time builder

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                      • #12
                        mudshark
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 60

                        My 700 SPS-T and my Howa 1500 are the same way, a bit wobbly. I don't think it has any effect on feeding. I would look at the feed ramp or the feed lips in the clip. My remmy has so much free-bore, My better loads won't fin in the magazine anyway...

                        Believe it or not, my old Czech VZ 24 Mauser beater has quite a bit less bolt wobble than either modern rifle but it has an almost square protrusion on one side of the bolt and a "bolt guide" machined into the rear receiver ring. The Germans eliminated the feature on the K98 to make production cheaper. I think the US did the same thing on the Springfield 03-A3.

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                        • #13
                          brian01tj
                          Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 468

                          Originally posted by protoolsnerd
                          The bolt, when at the right angle , is as fast as I am , no doubt faster if i were able . But , it's not forgiving of odd angles . Once that bolt is closed i'm gtg. I just figure i can speed up my reloads somehow .

                          So socal precision rifle club eh? I'm curious .......where do you guys meet, what do you shoot etc etc

                          I used to have the same issue with my 700 but after it gets used a bit it actually wears down the finish and makes for a smoother cycle. Although so long as you can get behind the rifle correctly and practice every night it wont become an issue.

                          To better understand what we shoot and where we shoot you should check out our website at www.socalprecision.com

                          http://www.socalprecision.com/


                          Didn't get your question answered here? Check out our forum to discuss your precision rifle... http://www.socalprecisionforum.com/

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                          • #14
                            damndave
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 10858

                            Mine seemed to wear in some and got smoother in time. Also, I notice it more at home when cleaning etc than at the range when you are behind the rifle.

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                            • #15
                              6mmintl
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 4822

                              Tighten bolt fit/clearence;
                              1. You can add two set screws at the 10 and 2 oclock position in rear receiver and screw in flat point/dog point set screws after you indicate in bolt lug set on a tight gage/case to keep bolt aligned to locking lugs from trigger sear bar lift.

                              2. Weld a small 1/16" dia. bead of hard weld rod on bolt bearing surfaces and stone to fit action.

                              3. Like Bhobbs said: Turn down bolt on receiver bearing surfaces front and rear and epoxy or weld sleeve.

                              Reduce opening/closing cocking/lift force:
                              1. polish firing pin, bolt cocking cam suface, and cocking piece to reduce drag, improve lock time.

                              2.Moly coat bolt shroud theads and bolt cocking cam surface.

                              3. Polish/stone/ramp bolt lugs cam surfaces from and back to smooth locking force.

                              4. Polish magazine cartridge bearing surfaces and ramp front of mag housing o allow a smooth transition of cartridges into action feed ramp.
                              5. Use a Steel fluted firing pin, dont use higher tension firing pin springs.

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