New Marlins from Ruger

[golfish]

DP, AGAIN

[bergmen]

I have a 336 on order..... OP, perhaps you can let me know when these are going to be distributed? I don't have a 30-30 but I have dies, brass, projectiles and everything else need.

The one shown in the videos is just beautiful

Just to whet the appetite:

336CS bought in 1994 on top, 1936 inherited from my Dad on the bottom:



Dan

[golfish]

Just to whet the appetite:

336CS bought in 1994 on top, 1936 inherited from my Dad on the bottom:



Dan

Wow! You suck Dan j/k

Those are 2 beautiful lever guns

Thanks for sharing. I'm looking forward to the new one. Hopefully I'll still be alive when it comes in

[norcal-ar]

This is great news as I’m anxiously waiting until November 2023 which when they estimate the rifle I want will hit the shelves

[DArBad]

Spyder, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it will, even if a little bit of file work is needed. It is fundamentally the same part, manufactured to the same dimensions (more or less) for the same model firearm.

But you knew that already.




To anyone else, and for those who may be unfamiliar with W.R.Buchanan's history with the guys he mentions in his post, I can attest to the fact that he ain't BS'n. He can be, and is, justifiably proud to have been a part of this deal.

Too, there have been other positive influences* that have over the years contributed to the improvement of these Marlin 1894s... (the 336s and 1895s did not seem to be as affected as did the revolver-caliber models 1894)... and Randy (W.R.B.) will, in conversation, be the first to tell you that he became aware of some of these fixes that have come from the storehouse of knowledge and experience of Paco Kelly's Leverguns.
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What Randy/W.R.Buchanan has done is not only give Ruger an equally important-dose of mechanical factoids (W.R. is a machinist if not a tool-and-die maker in his own right), what Randy has also done was to stay on top! of the *communcation*, to have CONTINUED to REMIND Ruger as they acquired these great Marlin assets, that these issues affecting the Model 1894 needed to be addressed. He has been a driving factor, a Shepard, if you will, that has enabled Ruger/Marlin to improve these Models 1894 as they have done. Call it an outsourced management of the highest order.



We are all better off for it!

Wow, hats off to Randy. I hope he gets some form of compensation from Ruger.....a free rifle is not out of the context.

From us to you, thank you Randy.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Wow Chris Thanks for the kind words !

Randy

[golfish]

I think Ruger would actually have to make some lever guns before they can give them away

[Jimi Jah]

Are they going to bring anything out chambered in 357? Their website doesn't say anything

I'd like to read about a Ruger/Henry comparison. Those 357 Henry's sell out as soon as they arrive. I have the steel side gate 20". It's excellent with great weight/balance and very good accuracy. 357 ammo is going down now, under 50 cent.

[Imageview]

The 1894s shown off at shot show were 44mag, I expect that 357 will follow within 6 months. I think not doing 357 first was a miss personally, but hopefully they have market research that proves me wrong.

As to comparing the marlin vs the Henry, I think once the 357 comes out for the marlin it will be slightly more refined than the Henry, but also a little more expensive. I think most people would be equally happy with either. Unless someone particularly liked marlins (and I do, I just picked up my 4th), I would recommend buying the Henry available now. Especially since they go quickly. It will be a while before marlins are commonly available.

[Ki6vsm]

The 1894's are just going into production as we speak and look for them on the shelves in the Spring.

This was pretty exciting news as I want an 1894 CB (Octagon) 20" in .44 Spec/Mag. It will be the first Marlin Rifle out of the dozens that I have reworked for myself and others, that I won't have to re work! It will run perfectly right out of the box,,, Which should have been the case for the last 30 years, if anybody had Gave a SHIP !

These guys actually care about what they are doing, and it shows! Our prayers have been answered! Thanks to Ruger!

Randy

Thanks for the report Randy. Hope you're right, for the sake of future buyers. I'm happy with the 1894 I bought in 2003. It never needed any work* and it came with the best, crispest factory trigger of all my store bought rifles.

* My 1894 (.44mag) did come to me with an off-set machined front sight post though. It gave the front sight post a lean to the right that I only recently diagnosed and remedied by replacing the base with a new "336" base, same as the 1894 base in all dimensions, from Numrich. (The "1894" replacement bases are all gone now.)

But that brings up a concern I have. And someone above touched on it. I wonder which Ruger parts will be retrofittable to the older rifles. And will Ruger release their parts onto the market like Marlin did.

I watched a vid from the recent Shot show, a guy was handling their new 1894 in .44 cal. I was disappointed to see that its foregrip had a barrel band rather than an endcap. Based on that, I don't think we can count on Ruger for factory replacement foregrips that'll fit our older .44/.45 rifles.

[Imageview]

Some will probably have bands, some caps. Different styles to differentiate models. Most parts should interchange within normal tolerances though.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Rifles with barrels under 22" with Barrel Bands are Carbines.

Rifles under 22" with End Caps" are "Short Rifles."

Rifles over 22" with either Barrel Bands or End Caps are "Rifles."

Usually the CB Models with Octagonal Barrels have End Caps IE 1894 CB24 Rifle or 1894 CB20, Short Rifle.

So far it appears that all of the 1895 guns SBL, Trapper and Guide Guns are Short Rifles 336's will probably be Carbines and 1894 rifles with Round Barrels will be Carbines.

I'm waiting for an 1894 CB 18-20' Short Rifle .44 Spec/Mag.

Hope this clears up the Nomenclature for these guns.

Randy

[Ki6vsm]

Some will probably have bands, some caps. Different styles to differentiate models. Most parts should interchange within normal tolerances though.

I'm sure not an expert on everything Marlin ever made, but my point was that I've never seen a .44/45 cal 1894 that had barrel band. I was speculating that it might be something new Ruger's doing. The only barrel-band 1894s I've ever seen were the the smaller bore .38 cal.... I'll just call them guns and avoid getting into the weeds with sub-categorizing.

And so... seeing that .44mag 1894 gun with the barrel band had me thinking that maybe Ruger is changing things around. BTW, this is the video that has me wondering about it all. This configuration looks completely new to me:

https://youtu.be/tDm_7XRGwY4

[pennstater]

Remember folks, these are Rugers. Built to Rugers new specs. These are "Marlins" in name only. Just like Winchester and Remington. Marlin died a few years ago with Remington; and now, Ruger has all the patents, machinery etc.
It's ALL Ruger.

MLC

[JohnCCW]

Remington quality took a nose dive years ago. Glad to see Ruger buy the Marlin brand. I have no doubt they will build them right.