difference between pre 64 and post 64 Model 94

[kendog4570]

They did but I cannot find the tests on the 92 action, it also ended up shooting loose but after many, many more rounds. He ended up designing the rifle based on a cross hybrid of an 86 and 92 a lot like the big horn armory lever actions, which are chambered in 45 colt, 454, 460s&w, and 500s&w.

I also have some 44-40 load data for use in post 1920 92's that you'd probably call crazy.

I only have 1 m94 a pre 64 32 special carbine made in 58, I got some 22 years ago for $200 at a show in costa mesa. It's seen better days it was well used before I got it, most of the bluing on the receiver is fading, the bore is excellent though and it shoots well.

Sounds like we are in violent agreement on the whole issue!!


I have 2 flat band carbines from early and late 40's. One is like new and the other... is not. It will be turned into a half mag, half octagon rifle barreled, carbine/musket butt stocked cast bullet gun. Have a new 1894/1994 commemorative Winchester barrel for it.

64 to just before the angle eject 94's make for a good basis for cast bullet cowboy silhouette guns.

[Sandspider500]

Ahh, I was wrong, apparently the 92 lacked the room for a cartridge of that length.

Buck Elliot
We did consider the .454 for the Browning '92, but there is precious little room inside a '92 action for a round as long as a normally-loaded .454 Casull. The gun worked perfectly with hot-loaded .45 Colt stuff, though we did have to cut the cartridge stop on the lifter back a bit to allow it to handle the same 300 - 325 gr. cast bullets we used in the .45 (as well as in the Casull.) I haven't had opportunity to examine a .454 Puma up-close & personal to see exactly how they handled the problem. The .45 Colt Browning will throw those same bullets at a very respectable 1950 fps, which ain't exactly loafing...

[kendog4570]

Ahh, I was wrong, apparently the 92 lacked the room for a cartridge of that length.

Buck Elliot
We did consider the .454 for the Browning '92, but there is precious little room inside a '92 action for a round as long as a normally-loaded .454 Casull. The gun worked perfectly with hot-loaded .45 Colt stuff, though we did have to cut the cartridge stop on the lifter back a bit to allow it to handle the same 300 - 325 gr. cast bullets we used in the .45 (as well as in the Casull.) I haven't had opportunity to examine a .454 Puma up-close & personal to see exactly how they handled the problem. The .45 Colt Browning will throw those same bullets at a very respectable 1950 fps, which ain't exactly loafing...

It's okay. You're still on the Christmas card, wine and beer list.

[Sandspider500]

I know this is a big thread drift, but it's interesting stuff you share.

I looked up the big horn armory rifles and a return on my search was for Rossie 92s in 454.

https://rossiusa.com/firearms/lever-action-rifles/49-r92-454-casull-20-9-rounds-stainless-steel-brazilian-hardwood

any experience or thought how they pulled that off?

Did you not see the bighorn armory one?

https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-90a-454-casull/

Costs a bit more than a rossi though.

[1859sharps]

Did you not see the bighorn armory one?

https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-90a-454-casull/

Costs a bit more than a rossi though.

I did, and if I was to buy such a rifle I would likely go with the Big Horn.

But I wasn't interested because of cost, just simple curiosity as I would have had my doubts/questions about it even without your posts.

[bigbossman]

It's interesting. Winchester went Angle eject in 1983; Rebounding Hammer in 1993, Cross Bolt Safety in 1992, Tang Safety in 2005, and closed up their USA Production in 2006. These are significant changes.

I had a 1894 Miroku Winchester rifle for a while. It was a finely made gun, with beautiful fit and finish. I ended up selling it because of two features that you mentioned... the tang safety and the rebound hammer.

The tang safety dictated that I could not install a tang sight, and the rebound hammer was a light striking affair that did not reliably touch off a round when the trigger was pulled. I used the money to buy a "real" Winchester.