Marlin CSBL

[e46dxyan]

Congrats on the 44! Even more motivation to reload if you don't already, since 44 prices on boxed ammo are a bit higher and there's so much versatility there. I'm incredibly tempted to pick one up too.

Thank you. I don't yet; as mentioned above, my dad left me his reloading equipment and supplies.

I wish you luck if you do.

[golfish]

It seemed like when panic buying wasn't an issue

Awwww hell no !!!! If your good with the price then that's all that matters. That very well could be the last production of those guns. If Ruger does make them then your still in a small window.

Have you heard from the seller?

Please keep us informed. The least we could do is send nasty emails to the rooster swallower.

[e46dxyan]

Probably not. However I've seen lots of listings that state "item is on display in store and is subject to purchase there prior to auction end." Not sure if this was the case in this instance.

-- Michael

Definitely strange. Since I've been watching most of the sales on GB, I've seen some sales end (no reserve) and get relisted right away. The ad will even say sold.. relisted. I'm thinking what happend to the winning bid?

[e46dxyan]

Awwww hell no !!!! If your good with the price then that's all that matters. That very well could be the last production of those guns. If Ruger does make them then your still in a small window.

Have you heard from the seller?

Please keep us informed. The least we could do is send nasty emails to the rooster swallower.

I'm good with the price. I've been searching for months, going to local gun stores, and monitored the sales ads on CG. I've budgeted this rifle to be over retail.

Will do. There has been some correspondence with GB. But I secured another rifle, and I've reported the issue to GB. Nothing more I can do.

[e46dxyan]

Sure, one can plink to their heart's content! and pop small game with .38 Special.

But there's no better way to serve .357 Magnum, period, when you have the room to wield a 16" lever carbine.

For example, using the classic Alliant (formerly Hercules) 2400 powder, a 158 grain XTP will be smokin' along 400 feet per second faster! than from an 8" Colt Python*.

Same goes for a 180 grain using 2400 propellant; the 16" lever carbine will see that projectile to 300 feet per second faster than from the 8" Python*.

Plink! or DRT on deer-sized game. The .357 carbine is the most fun and the most useful 6 lb lever around.





(*Hornady 9th Edition, .357 Rifle, Pages 569, 570 and .357 Magnum, Page 792)

Since I go the SBL and my .44 ammo is on the low end, I'm going to reload. I just moved my dad's reloading equipment to my garage.

He has two RCBS reloading presses, one Dillon RL550, die's for almost every caliber.

Looking through his supplies, he has a good variety of powder, bullets, brass, and primers.

For the .44 caliber, there are 1,000 Speer 200 GR Jacketed magnum hollow point bullets, about 400-500 cast bullets without any descriptions on the box (I will need to weigh), about 400-500 tumbled shells, and a few thousand standard/magnum primers.

Is Speer 200 GR a good bullet for the Marlin?

[lastinline]

Move the powder, and primers inside to a place that maintains a cool temperature. If stored in a hot garage, those items can degrade rapidly.

The Speer 200 grain bullet may work well, you need to try a small batch first.
Let us know exactly what powder you have, and we (or I if others won’t) can give you some data.

[200Apples]

For the .44 caliber, there are 1,000 Speer 200 GR Jacketed magnum hollow point bullets, about 400-500 cast bullets without any descriptions on the box (I will need to weigh), about 400-500 tumbled shells, and a few thousand standard/magnum primers.

Is Speer 200 GR a good bullet for the Marlin?

Do you have a 1" micrometer? It'd be good to measure the diameter of those cast bo0lits.

Your SBL should have Ballard rifling, so the slugs should be good to go if they measure .430"- .431".

I've not slugged the bore of my SBL made in late 2018 because I shoot semi-jacketed 270 grain Speer Deep Curl from it at about 1400 fps using Viht N110 or 1350ish using 2400. I won't post load weights because that is something you'll want to develop on your own starting with various book data.


The rifling rate of twist remains a slow 1-in-38" in these carbines, so they may not stabilize a longer (300 grains +) slug which is why I stick to 270s or 240s. If I were to hunt with my SBL I'd have to build some Barnes' 225 grain PBX loads but I believe their book data gets this particular pure copper hollowpont moving at a good clip.


Your 200 grain Speers will be good bullets for target shooting. Just go to Speer's website for data. You will not need Magnum primers unless you're building Max load velocities using H110 or W296 powders. I use standard large primers for all of my stuff save for the .375 H&H.

What powders are in your stash?

Hornady's 9th Edition shows their 200 grain XTP to 2000 fps using Viht N110 or Alliant 2400. I might have to build me some of those!

[200Apples]

*Hornady 9th Edition .44 Magnum rifle data, that is. Page 634.

[200Apples]

And if possible, it'd be nice to gauge the hardness of the cast alloy so you have a better idea what speeds to run them to. There are methods and basic tools to measure Brinell hardness (BHN).

What's nice to see is that you have a not-insignificant supply of mostly-prepped brass and a good supply of those 200 grain Speers. Rifle data, however, is scare for that bullet.

In addition to the other questions we have asked, what bulletmakers' manuals did your father keep?

[golfish]

Move the powder, and primers inside to a place that maintains a cool temperature. If stored in a hot garage, those items can degrade rapidly.

.

Also any lubed bullets. Possibly a big mess there. Ask me how I know?

[golfish]

Since I go the SBL and my .44 ammo is on the low end, I'm going to reload. I just moved my dad's reloading equipment to my garage.

He has two RCBS reloading presses, one Dillon RL550, die's for almost every caliber.

Looking through his supplies, he has a good variety of powder, bullets, brass, and primers.

For the .44 caliber, there are 1,000 Speer 200 GR Jacketed magnum hollow point bullets, about 400-500 cast bullets without any descriptions on the box (I will need to weigh), about 400-500 tumbled shells, and a few thousand standard/magnum primers.

Is Speer 200 GR a good bullet for the Marlin?

I wish I could get my son into reloading. He goes out shooting with us (MLC) but he's not really interested into guns. He's got a good little job, going to school and a gal so I don't push him. He does sit down and watch the 49er game with me every Sunday.


What happened with the CSBL?

[e46dxyan]

Thank you for the pro tip. My dad stored eveyrthing in his basement (cool temps). I'm in the process of doing the same.

I'm taking inventory of the powder and will post shortly.

[lastinline]

Thank you for the pro tip. My dad stored eveyrthing in his basement (cool temps). I'm in the process of doing the same.

I'm taking inventory of the powder and will post shortly.

[e46dxyan]

Do you have a 1" micrometer? It'd be good to measure the diameter of those cast bo0lits.

Your SBL should have Ballard rifling, so the slugs should be good to go if they measure .430"- .431".

I've not slugged the bore of my SBL made in late 2018 because I shoot semi-jacketed 270 grain Speer Deep Curl from it at about 1400 fps using Viht N110 or 1350ish using 2400. I won't post load weights because that is something you'll want to develop on your own starting with various book data.


The rifling rate of twist remains a slow 1-in-38" in these carbines, so they may not stabilize a longer (300 grains +) slug which is why I stick to 270s or 240s. If I were to hunt with my SBL I'd have to build some Barnes' 225 grain PBX loads but I believe their book data gets this particular pure copper hollowpont moving at a good clip.


Your 200 grain Speers will be good bullets for target shooting. Just go to Speer's website for data. You will not need Magnum primers unless you're building Max load velocities using H110 or W296 powders. I use standard large primers for all of my stuff save for the .375 H&H.

What powders are in your stash?

Hornady's 9th Edition shows their 200 grain XTP to 2000 fps using Viht N110 or Alliant 2400. I might have to build me some of those!

Thank you for the information.

Micrometer and digital scale is on order. I can't find my dads, and he used a manual scale.

Taking inventory of the powder, will report shortly.

Seller informed me that the SBL was stock from Jan 2020.

[e46dxyan]

And if possible, it'd be nice to gauge the hardness of the cast alloy so you have a better idea what speeds to run them to. There are methods and basic tools to measure Brinell hardness (BHN).

What's nice to see is that you have a not-insignificant supply of mostly-prepped brass and a good supply of those 200 grain Speers. Rifle data, however, is scare for that bullet.

In addition to the other questions we have asked, what bulletmakers' manuals did your father keep?

I'm looking for his Manuals. He passed in 2017, and we put his things in storage.

I may go to a local reloading supplier to see if they can analyze the cast bullets.

I noticed that too when googling Speer data.