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I have a Rem 783 in .308, bought it just to get a cheap budget beater to start with the caliber. Very happy with the trigger and its accuracy. A little more difficult to single load rounds, but the receiver is beefy as it surrounds more of the bolt.
The scope that came with it is a no name junker, the rear lens popped loose. I sent an email with pic to Remington, and they sent me a new one. Eventually replaced with a Nikon Buckmasters, also a good value for the money.Comment
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Good to know. My plans were to replace any budget scope that comes with the rifleI have a Rem 783 in .308, bought it just to get a cheap budget beater to start with the caliber. Very happy with the trigger and its accuracy. A little more difficult to single load rounds, but the receiver is beefy as it surrounds more of the bolt.
The scope that came with it is a no name junker, the rear lens popped loose. I sent an email with pic to Remington, and they sent me a new one. Eventually replaced with a Nikon Buckmasters, also a good value for the money.
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I ditto Alpha Romeos' post, I have MVP varmint in 5.56 thats a real bugholer with reloads.Comment
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Remington 700 ADL varmint.Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
Southwest Regional Director
Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
www.unlimitedrange.org
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He's shooting 300 yards. Does he really need a heavy barrel for that? I don't see why something like a Ruger American or a Savage Axis wouldn't be a great idea for what OP is proposing. He's got a lot of good options.
The Remington 700 ADL Varmint guns are nice, heavy guns, good for shooting from prone or bench especially for recoil-sensitive and/or new shooters, not that this matters much for .223 Rem. :-) I have one in .308 Win. However, they do have a slower twist rate. The .223 Rem chambering--and .308 Win, for that matter--both use a 1:12 rate, so that means lighter bullets."San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
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Rational posts are not allowed in these "I want to buy a budget rifle" threads. At least you didn't say anything about the scopes.He's shooting 300 yards. Does he really need a heavy barrel for that? I don't see why something like a Ruger American or a Savage Axis wouldn't be a great idea for what OP is proposing. He's got a lot of good options.
The Remington 700 ADL Varmint guns are nice, heavy guns, good for shooting from prone or bench especially for recoil-sensitive and/or new shooters, not that this matters much for .223 Rem. :-) I have one in .308 Win. However, they do have a slower twist rate. The .223 Rem chambering--and .308 Win, for that matter--both use a 1:12 rate, so that means lighter bullets.Comment
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Actually none of the guns listed are very heavy.He's shooting 300 yards. Does he really need a heavy barrel for that? I don't see why something like a Ruger American or a Savage Axis wouldn't be a great idea for what OP is proposing. He's got a lot of good options.
The Remington 700 ADL Varmint guns are nice, heavy guns, good for shooting from prone or bench especially for recoil-sensitive and/or new shooters, not that this matters much for .223 Rem. :-) I have one in .308 Win. However, they do have a slower twist rate. The .223 Rem chambering--and .308 Win, for that matter--both use a 1:12 rate, so that means lighter bullets.
I keep reading all these posts about how heavy these barrels are and by competition standards they are fly weight barrels.
My 82 year old father shot a wood stocked 30-06 hunting rifle and with the scope it weighed almost 12 pounds.
Today's shooters want a 6 pound rifle and all that gets you is more felt recoil and a flinch.
The advantage to weight is it overcomes a heavy trigger pull which is detrimental to accuracy. Weight means you have less felt recoil so you don't develop a flinch. Weight means less shooter fatigue. Weight means you can shoot without having to constantly cool the barrel. The only two bad things about weight are a nose heavy gun is harder to shoot and if you are walking all day it adds to fatigue but those aren't issues for the OP.
If you can't carry a 10 pound rifle how are you going to drag out a 100 pound deer or 200 pound hog.
The picture shows my latest 700 Remington hunting rifle in 338 Norma Ackley Improved with a 28 inch barrel that is 0.930 at the muzzle.
The barrel next to it is a heavy barrelLast edited by LynnJr; 10-13-2020, 7:24 AM.Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
Southwest Regional Director
Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
www.unlimitedrange.org
Not a commercial business.
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It’s just outside your budget but I just picked up a 783 Varmint with bull barrel and laminated stock in .243 for $501 (without tax and DROS) as a Father’s Day special from sportsman’s warehouse.Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.Comment
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Howa in .243
Bought last year for $350. Sold out right now.
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For competition, you're right. Seems, though, from what I read, OP's not anywhere near where you are yet (and neither am I--far from it!). He's only going out to 300 yards. I'm not suggesting that weight is necessarily bad in a rifle, just that a heavier barrel (e. g. varmint-style barrel) is not absolutely needed for this particular use case. But it certainly doesn't hurt. Indeed, a varmint-style barrel with an appropriate twist rate for most bullets seems like it would fit his situation well. So would a sporter barrel. Remember that we're talking about .223 Rem-style recoil here, which is minimal anyway.
Actually none of the guns listed are very heavy.
I keep reading all these posts about how heavy these barrels are and by competition standards they are fly weight barrels.
My 82 year old father shot a wood stocked 30-06 hunting rifle and with the scope it weighed almost 12 pounds.
Today's shooters want a 6 pound rifle and all that gets you is more felt recoil and a flinch.
The advantage to weight is it overcomes a heavy trigger pull which is detrimental to accuracy. Weight means you have less felt recoil so you don't develop a flinch. Weight means less shooter fatigue. Weight means you can shoot without having to constantly cool the barrel. The only two bad things about weight are a nose heavy gun is harder to shoot and if you are walking all day it adds to fatigue but those aren't issues for the OP.
If you can't carry a 10 pound rifle how are you going to drag out a 100 pound deer or 200 pound hog.
The picture shows my latest 700 Remington hunting rifle in 338 Norma Ackley Improved with a 28 inch barrel that is 0.930 at the muzzle.
The barrel next to it is a heavy barrel
Good choice. That's another fine round, plus it's legal in most states for deer hunting. It's got a little more recoil than .223 Rem, but not much. The twist rate on most .243 rifles is, I believe, 1:10, which means you can shoot the heavier 0.243" bullets as well. And like .223 Rem, .308 Win, and .30-06, the .243 is available just about everywhere. Easy to handload as .308 Win, too."San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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