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  • #16
    blindman
    Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 248

    Originally posted by CartridgeCalls
    Browning A-BOLT used are around $500. I have one for sale right now in . 223 with varmint barrel.
    Found a few I'm interested in, but the distance to go get them is crazy. Same with yours

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    • #17
      longhairchris
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 318

      I have a Rem 783 in .308, bought it just to get a cheap budget beater to start with the caliber. Very happy with the trigger and its accuracy. A little more difficult to single load rounds, but the receiver is beefy as it surrounds more of the bolt.

      The scope that came with it is a no name junker, the rear lens popped loose. I sent an email with pic to Remington, and they sent me a new one. Eventually replaced with a Nikon Buckmasters, also a good value for the money.

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      • #18
        blindman
        Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 248

        Originally posted by longhairchris
        I have a Rem 783 in .308, bought it just to get a cheap budget beater to start with the caliber. Very happy with the trigger and its accuracy. A little more difficult to single load rounds, but the receiver is beefy as it surrounds more of the bolt.

        The scope that came with it is a no name junker, the rear lens popped loose. I sent an email with pic to Remington, and they sent me a new one. Eventually replaced with a Nikon Buckmasters, also a good value for the money.
        Good to know. My plans were to replace any budget scope that comes with the rifle

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        • #19
          papaboomboom
          Member
          • Aug 2017
          • 367

          I ditto Alpha Romeos' post, I have MVP varmint in 5.56 thats a real bugholer with reloads.

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          • #20
            tigerpan
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 2197

            Tikka

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            • #21
              LynnJr
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7958

              Remington 700 ADL varmint.
              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
              Southwest Regional Director
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              Not a commercial business.
              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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              • #22
                Cowboy T
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2010
                • 5725

                He's shooting 300 yards. Does he really need a heavy barrel for that? I don't see why something like a Ruger American or a Savage Axis wouldn't be a great idea for what OP is proposing. He's got a lot of good options.

                The Remington 700 ADL Varmint guns are nice, heavy guns, good for shooting from prone or bench especially for recoil-sensitive and/or new shooters, not that this matters much for .223 Rem. :-) I have one in .308 Win. However, they do have a slower twist rate. The .223 Rem chambering--and .308 Win, for that matter--both use a 1:12 rate, so that means lighter bullets.
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                • #23
                  not-fishing
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2270

                  I've been very happy with CZ rifles.

                  Spreading the WORD according to COLT. and Smith, Wesson, Ruger, HK, Sig, High Standard, Browning

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                  • #24
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19789

                    Originally posted by Cowboy T
                    He's shooting 300 yards. Does he really need a heavy barrel for that? I don't see why something like a Ruger American or a Savage Axis wouldn't be a great idea for what OP is proposing. He's got a lot of good options.

                    The Remington 700 ADL Varmint guns are nice, heavy guns, good for shooting from prone or bench especially for recoil-sensitive and/or new shooters, not that this matters much for .223 Rem. :-) I have one in .308 Win. However, they do have a slower twist rate. The .223 Rem chambering--and .308 Win, for that matter--both use a 1:12 rate, so that means lighter bullets.
                    Rational posts are not allowed in these "I want to buy a budget rifle" threads. At least you didn't say anything about the scopes.

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                    • #25
                      LynnJr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7958



                      Originally posted by Cowboy T
                      He's shooting 300 yards. Does he really need a heavy barrel for that? I don't see why something like a Ruger American or a Savage Axis wouldn't be a great idea for what OP is proposing. He's got a lot of good options.

                      The Remington 700 ADL Varmint guns are nice, heavy guns, good for shooting from prone or bench especially for recoil-sensitive and/or new shooters, not that this matters much for .223 Rem. :-) I have one in .308 Win. However, they do have a slower twist rate. The .223 Rem chambering--and .308 Win, for that matter--both use a 1:12 rate, so that means lighter bullets.
                      Actually none of the guns listed are very heavy.
                      I keep reading all these posts about how heavy these barrels are and by competition standards they are fly weight barrels.
                      My 82 year old father shot a wood stocked 30-06 hunting rifle and with the scope it weighed almost 12 pounds.
                      Today's shooters want a 6 pound rifle and all that gets you is more felt recoil and a flinch.
                      The advantage to weight is it overcomes a heavy trigger pull which is detrimental to accuracy. Weight means you have less felt recoil so you don't develop a flinch. Weight means less shooter fatigue. Weight means you can shoot without having to constantly cool the barrel. The only two bad things about weight are a nose heavy gun is harder to shoot and if you are walking all day it adds to fatigue but those aren't issues for the OP.
                      If you can't carry a 10 pound rifle how are you going to drag out a 100 pound deer or 200 pound hog.
                      The picture shows my latest 700 Remington hunting rifle in 338 Norma Ackley Improved with a 28 inch barrel that is 0.930 at the muzzle.
                      The barrel next to it is a heavy barrel
                      Last edited by LynnJr; 10-13-2020, 7:24 AM.
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                      Southwest Regional Director
                      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                      www.unlimitedrange.org
                      Not a commercial business.
                      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                      • #26
                        deadcoyote
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4002

                        It’s just outside your budget but I just picked up a 783 Varmint with bull barrel and laminated stock in .243 for $501 (without tax and DROS) as a Father’s Day special from sportsman’s warehouse.
                        Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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                        • #27
                          brian5271
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 637

                          I have two Remington 783's, one in 223 and the other in 308. I am very happy with both.
                          If I had to describe myself in one word it would be "bad at following directions"

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                          • #28
                            NATEWA
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 5977

                            Howa in .243

                            Bought last year for $350. Sold out right now.

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                            • #29
                              blindman
                              Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 248

                              Well. Looks like I'm going 243. Purchasing from another cg member

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                              • #30
                                Cowboy T
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5725

                                Originally posted by sigstroker
                                Rational posts are not allowed in these "I want to buy a budget rifle" threads. At least you didn't say anything about the scopes.


                                Originally posted by LynnJr




                                Actually none of the guns listed are very heavy.
                                I keep reading all these posts about how heavy these barrels are and by competition standards they are fly weight barrels.
                                My 82 year old father shot a wood stocked 30-06 hunting rifle and with the scope it weighed almost 12 pounds.
                                Today's shooters want a 6 pound rifle and all that gets you is more felt recoil and a flinch.
                                The advantage to weight is it overcomes a heavy trigger pull which is detrimental to accuracy. Weight means you have less felt recoil so you don't develop a flinch. Weight means less shooter fatigue. Weight means you can shoot without having to constantly cool the barrel. The only two bad things about weight are a nose heavy gun is harder to shoot and if you are walking all day it adds to fatigue but those aren't issues for the OP.
                                If you can't carry a 10 pound rifle how are you going to drag out a 100 pound deer or 200 pound hog.
                                The picture shows my latest 700 Remington hunting rifle in 338 Norma Ackley Improved with a 28 inch barrel that is 0.930 at the muzzle.
                                The barrel next to it is a heavy barrel
                                For competition, you're right. Seems, though, from what I read, OP's not anywhere near where you are yet (and neither am I--far from it!). He's only going out to 300 yards. I'm not suggesting that weight is necessarily bad in a rifle, just that a heavier barrel (e. g. varmint-style barrel) is not absolutely needed for this particular use case. But it certainly doesn't hurt. Indeed, a varmint-style barrel with an appropriate twist rate for most bullets seems like it would fit his situation well. So would a sporter barrel. Remember that we're talking about .223 Rem-style recoil here, which is minimal anyway.

                                Originally posted by blindman
                                Well. Looks like I'm going 243. Purchasing from another cg member

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                                Good choice. That's another fine round, plus it's legal in most states for deer hunting. It's got a little more recoil than .223 Rem, but not much. The twist rate on most .243 rifles is, I believe, 1:10, which means you can shoot the heavier 0.243" bullets as well. And like .223 Rem, .308 Win, and .30-06, the .243 is available just about everywhere. Easy to handload as .308 Win, too.
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