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  • #2
    Fishwishin
    Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 419

    Very good read- thank you!
    Life was simpler, and more honest, when revolvers and lever actions were the rule.

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    • #3
      pennstater
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 4665

      Yeah Duece, that was a good read. Whew, 270+ yards with a .45-70, damn!

      MLC
      Last edited by pennstater; 02-12-2020, 9:07 AM.

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      • #4
        splithoof
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2015
        • 5955

        Nice article. I'm hoping to do a safari not too long from now, and appreciate the info on the logistics.
        As to the use of the .45-70, a well placed shot has historically done the job very well.
        One advantage I can see in using a Marlin lever is that a replacement rifle won't break the bank in the event it ends up somewhere else.

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        • #5
          200Apples
          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2011
          • 7217

          Who was it we had been talking about almost two months ago? That fella that went to S.A. with a Marlin 1895 and Garrett Hammerhead ammunition?

          He was one of the first to pave the way for hunters like the man featured in the OP.

          Outstanding! sirs. Love to see the cartridge loaded to it's potential (ouch! my shoulder!) and used in such versatile, light weight and handy firearms.

          Great post!

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          "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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          • #6
            pennstater
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 4665

            Originally posted by 200Apples
            Who was it we had been talking about almost two months ago? That fella that went to S.A. with a Marlin 1895 and Garrett Hammerhead ammunition?

            He was one of the first to pave the way for hunters like the man featured in the OP.

            Outstanding! sirs. Love to see the cartridge loaded to it's potential (ouch! my shoulder!) and used in such versatile, light weight and handy firearms.

            Great post!

            Chris, that would have been Brian Pierce of "Handloader" magazine.

            MLC

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            • #7
              200Apples
              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2011
              • 7217

              Thanks Tom. Wasn’t Brian, though, as much as I’d wish it was. Pearce is one reason I put so much stock in heavy .44 Spl. loads in my sixguns.

              It was... hang on. BRB.


              It was Vince Lupo. I’m having trouble here posting links with my phone, so, go to Garrett Cartridges dot com and look for Lupo Safaris - New World Record!


              Last edited by 200Apples; 02-12-2020, 9:17 AM.
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              "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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              • #8
                MissiontoMars
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 1544

                Interesting read. Very cool to hear all the details and planning that goes into this type of trip.

                One question, though, with so many better calibers, ballistically speaking, was it the novelty of using a levergun that was the driving factor?

                I mean, for example, a light recoiling .308 would outperform in muzzle and downrange energy? Most have a 3+1 or 4+1 capacity, right?

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                • #9
                  pennstater
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 4665

                  Ahh, yes! It was the Vince Lupo article. Good call. I do like following Brian's articles too. Guy knows his stuff, no doubt.

                  MLC

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                  • #10
                    200Apples
                    -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 7217

                    Originally posted by MissiontoMars
                    Interesting read. Very cool to hear all the details and planning that goes into this type of trip.

                    One question, though, with so many better calibers, ballistically speaking, was it the novelty of using a levergun that was the driving factor?

                    I mean, for example, a light recoiling .308 would outperform in muzzle and downrange energy? Most have a 3+1 or 4+1 capacity, right?
                    .
                    "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

                    NRA Lifetime | Avatar courtesy Elon Musk's Twitter User SomthingWicked

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                    • #11
                      Horsewright
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 662

                      Excellent article waiting for parts 2&3.

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                      • #12
                        MissiontoMars
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1544

                        Ahh, understood, thanks!

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                        • #13
                          RNE228
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2458

                          45-70, as well as the "other" 45 and 50 cal cartridges of the era, have potential to much longer ranges. They just have a massive arc in the trajectory.

                          That's where those vernier and tang sights come in. As long as you know the dope on your cartridge and rifle, you just dial in your elevation.

                          Prime example is Tom Selleck in Quigly movie; as the guy on the horse was riding out with the bucket, he was dialing up the elevation on his back sight.

                          Originally posted by pennstater
                          Yeah Duece, that was a good read. Whew, 270+ yards with a .45-70, damn!

                          MLC

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                          • #14
                            200Apples
                            -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 7217

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                            "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

                            NRA Lifetime | Avatar courtesy Elon Musk's Twitter User SomthingWicked

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                            • #15
                              200Apples
                              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 7217

                              *argue, for example, with a 540 grain...
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                              "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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