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  • fuelcell
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 11

    Wanting to get into long range

    I hope this is the right place to post. I want to get into long range shooting and not really sure where to start. I have been reading some about Bergara, Tika and Ruger RPR and Rem 700. I am thinking maybe a combo target and hunting or should I get two separate rifles for each activity. Would be nice to combine if possible without a lot of compromise. Thinking my budget would be around $1500.00. If i can get away for less would be better as not sure how often I would do shoot. Thanks for any info.
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    sigguy552
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2003
    • 702

    The new Savage stealth rifles look and shoot great. If I didn't have a stupid AI addiction, that would be my route.

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    • #3
      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5680

      You need two separate rifles.
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      • #4
        kevins750
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 1376

        $1500 rifle and scope or just rifle.

        Couple of things.....

        Rem 700 cheapest and most plentiful aftermarket. You will be upgrading it...

        I like savages, I have several rifles with the accutrigger, I like the triggers.
        People will talk bad about savages, but they flat out shoot....
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        • #5
          kevins750
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 1376

          Originally posted by baih777
          You need two separate rifles.
          I know it's a common response on here.

          But I disagree, depending on what "hunting" means.
          "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
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          • #6
            RHSth4
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 1076

            For starters what do you plan on hunting? Secondly your budget is that including an optic or not? Need some more details for better feedback on your idea.

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            • #7
              bsumoba
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 4217

              Hunting usually means lighter weight rifle. Long range usually implies a heavier, ballistically superior bullet, so a 7mm or better is usually chosen. If your definition of long range is 1,000 yards or less, then you can get away with 6.5mm. If you are going 7mm or better, a heavier gun helps a lot and most target guns are on the heavier side, hence why some would argue two separate guns.

              My definition of long range is 1,000 plus and I would probably recommend a 6.5 creedmoor which IMO, is good for up to 1,000 yards. It can go further, but at that point, you might as well go to a larger caliber.

              I would look at the Ruger RPR and then dump the rest on the scope. 1,500 is kind of skinny, but for a starter gun, that is sufficient.

              Hard to give you any more advice if we do not know what your definition of long range is, whether you reload or not and your skill level as a shooter.

              Anyone that truly decides to go hardcore into long range shooting will most likely upgrade to a custom action like a Defiance and then a custom barrel like a Bartlein, Brux, Krieger, etc. When you get to this world, be prepared to have $6K+ with the optic ready. And...there is a difference in general when you are talking factory rifle vs a custom rifle. You can take a factory rifle and re-barrel it. That would be the most cost effective and largest improvement you can do to a gun to get it to shoot better.

              Action - $1,500
              Chambered barrel - $600+
              Brake (optional) - $300 installed
              Trigger $200
              Rings - $150
              Stock - $1,000ish
              Scope - $2,000
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              • #8
                PatC415
                • Nov 2014
                • 979

                I started out with a RPR 6.5 and Vortex Scope, 1000 yd easy peasy, $2K.

                What happened after that, was REALLY expensive! LOL
                It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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                • #9
                  fuelcell
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 11

                  Budget rifle about $1500.00, scope no idea what to spend on that. My plan to hunt elk and deer. Skill level with rifle is ar15 to about 100 yards and 50 yards or so with .22. My hunting has been all shotgun with our winged friends. So 80% of my shooting is pistols but loved shooting at longer distances with the rifles I have but I want to get to 500+ yards.

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                  • #10
                    mmlook
                    Member
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 324

                    Originally posted by fuelcell
                    Budget rifle about $1500.00, scope no idea what to spend on that. My plan to hunt elk and deer. Skill level with rifle is ar15 to about 100 yards and 50 yards or so with .22. My hunting has been all shotgun with our winged friends. So 80% of my shooting is pistols but loved shooting at longer distances with the rifles I have but I want to get to 500+ yards.

                    plan to spend at least $1k on a scope
                    - if you can afford it, $2k+

                    50% of long range shooting is reading the wind
                    - the best tool to read the wind is your scope
                    - if your fundamentals are solid, and you have a decent scope,
                    you'll be able to see your trace before it hits the target

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                    • #11
                      Tommy Gun
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 806

                      500 is longer range then you are used to but you dont need to spend a ton. Grab a Tikka T3 or Rem 700 in .308 and a FFP 4x14 scope. Primary Arms, Vortex or Sig Sauer. Dont fall into the jerk off more $$$ is king BS. If you want to go 1k yds tack on more options but right now you could probably spend $1200 on rifle and scope. Chassis will add a lot of weight which might not be what you are looking for if you want a hunting rifle/target shooter.

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                      • #12
                        hambam105
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7083

                        Partial Quotes from the OP:

                        ...Budget rifle....
                        ... My plan to hunt elk and deer....

                        Perhaps you can budget a rifle for a virtual elk hunt for a starting price of $1,500.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57157

                          Originally posted by fuelcell
                          I hope this is the right place to post. I want to get into long range shooting and not really sure where to start. I have been reading some about Bergara, Tika and Ruger RPR and Rem 700. I am thinking maybe a combo target and hunting or should I get two separate rifles for each activity. Would be nice to combine if possible without a lot of compromise. Thinking my budget would be around $1500.00. If i can get away for less would be better as not sure how often I would do shoot. Thanks for any info.
                          Combining both requires significant compromise on both fronts, leaving you with a gun that's optimized for neither purpose.
                          The best way is to have one gun optimized for EACH purpose.
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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19754

                            Originally posted by fuelcell
                            Budget rifle about $1500.00, scope no idea what to spend on that. My plan to hunt elk and deer. Skill level with rifle is ar15 to about 100 yards and 50 yards or so with .22. My hunting has been all shotgun with our winged friends. So 80% of my shooting is pistols but loved shooting at longer distances with the rifles I have but I want to get to 500+ yards.
                            500+ you can do with your AR. You just need the right ammo. At the local range a guy was whacking the 600 yard plates regularly with an ordinary Aero Precision 5.56 and a 1-6x scope.

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                            • #15
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7958

                              An AR-15 wouldn't be my first choice for an elk rifle.
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