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  • sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19830

    opinions on scope

    I'm asking this is this forum because of the precision-minded folks here.

    I guess SIG is about to bring out a new line, or new models, of its scopes because some Tango6 models are on sale. These retail for over $2500 and are on sale in various places for over $1000 discount. I've always admired the Tango6 line because of the 34mm tube and the electronic anti-cant indicator that you see in the scope's view.



    A few questions about this one in particular. I know 44mm isn't the biggest objective, but adequate?

    Also it's only 3-18x and it seems most PRS guys use 20 to 25x or more on the top end. But I also often hear they dial down to 16 to 20x for the shooting. Would that put this 18x in the ballpark, or would I similarly need to dial down to 12 to 14x on it?

    The Christmas tree reticle available is only moa, and while I'd rather have mil, I can adapt to save a grand on the price. I think?

    Since I've never spent more than 300 bucks on a scope (I'm super cheap on scopes but have had great luck so far) it gives me the shakes to think about spending 4 figures on one, but at least these are high quality and have a lot of features.
  • #2
    NorCalFocus
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 3913

    3-18 is plenty for shooting steel. I doubt you would have to turn it down to 12-16 to use it. I also just got a 44mm objective scope, I was concerned at first, but going back and forth from a 50mm to a 44mm scope, I can't notice a difference. Maybe at first or last light, but for day time shooting in AZ the 44mm should be fine.

    The only disadvantage to running MOA over Mil in a PRS setting, is everyone else is running Mil. As far as making shots and calling your own corrections, it will be no different.

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    • #3
      kevins750
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 1376

      I have heard they are nice scopes and that is quite a rebate.....

      not saying these scopes are as good as the Sig (certainly lacking DVL)
      but just a thought...

      Athlon ares BTR is $550 with more mag than 18X

      bushnell lrsti lrhsi should be around that price range or less

      tract toric...

      are a few to consider.
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      • #4
        sigstroker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2009
        • 19830

        Thanks.

        Guess I should have mentioned, I won't be shooting bullseye at all, other than to sight in at 100. Only PRS-type steel or bigger.

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        • #5
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19830

          Yes, I had the Athlon in my sights (har har) until these SIGs came on sale. It's so hard for me to resist that kind of bargain...

          Tract Toric seems like a very good scope, but they don't have any reticles I like. Their attempt at a Christmas tree is not the greatest.

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          • #6
            kevins750
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 1376

            Originally posted by sigstroker
            Thanks.

            Guess I should have mentioned, I won't be shooting bullseye at all, other than to sight in at 100. Only PRS-type steel or bigger.
            I am by no means a pro at long distance...but magnification isn't always super important...

            I have shot over and hit at 1K with 1" 30mm and 34mm tubes
            40mm 42mm and 56mm objectives..

            and never at high mag
            "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
            NRA+CRPA member

            "Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol" -------Deputy Samuel Gerard

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19830

              Oh balls! Turns out the 6-24x50 is only $400 more. Discount of over $1300 from msrp.

              This incremental spending creep gets me every time.

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              • #8
                Bicky
                Banned
                • Feb 2015
                • 203

                I have the 5-30. Glass and tracking are very good. The turret feel and locking are so-so.

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                • #9
                  diver160651
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1764

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  I'm asking this is this forum because of the precision-minded folks here.

                  I guess SIG is about to bring out a new line, or new models, of its scopes because some Tango6 models are on sale. These retail for over $2500 and are on sale in various places for over $1000 discount. I've always admired the Tango6 line because of the 34mm tube and the electronic anti-cant indicator that you see in the scope's view.



                  A few questions about this one in particular. I know 44mm isn't the biggest objective, but adequate?

                  Also it's only 3-18x and it seems most PRS guys use 20 to 25x or more on the top end. But I also often hear they dial down to 16 to 20x for the shooting. Would that put this 18x in the ballpark, or would I similarly need to dial down to 12 to 14x on it?

                  The Christmas tree reticle available is only moa, and while I'd rather have mil, I can adapt to save a grand on the price. I think?
                  Here is my 2 cents:

                  Generally speaking:
                  3-18 has benefits over for something like a gas gun where the FOV is key for some events, but works perfectly fine for a bolt in PRS

                  5-25 is super popular because 25x is great for zeroing and shooting paper or in a static target situation. Many of us dial down to 12-15x when on stages with a large FOF.

                  DON'T get MOA unless you're always going to shoot by yourself or interested in paper shooting events like F-class - but then you would not be considering the type of reticle you mentioned.

                  If your are interested or shoot around places that you'll see a like of field or positional shooters, go mil and call it a day. I see MOA guys all the time kicking their self in the head.. selling off to a new generation.. where the cycle continues.

                  Calguns seems to have more MOA users and promoters than anywhere I've seen outside of a paper range event.. so the feedback might not be the same as if you're shooting our clubs range or Cowtown in AZ
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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19830

                    Ha, Cowtown is the closest range to me (and not very close) that has that type of shooting. For whatever reason, SIG didn't offer the Christmas tree reticle in mil. They do have a standard milling reticle in mil.

                    I forgot that I have a cheap Bushnell AR optics 4.5-18x that maybe I'll throw on an AR if I can find a cheap 1 inch mount. We only have a 500 yard plate nearby but at least I'll get some sort of idea.

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                    • #11
                      Red9
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2900

                      Then there is the Burris xtr. Good scope for 700.00

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                      Never enough reloading stuff

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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19830

                        Diver, it looks like if I want to get one of these SIGs on sale in mrad, it will have to be their "milling" reticle. Do you guys still use those, or has the Christmas tree mostly taken over the sport?



                        The Christmas tree appeals to me because it just seems so much faster and easier than dialing, but maybe that's more theory than reality?

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                        • #13
                          sigstroker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 19830

                          Holy cats, this must be the weekend for scope bargains.

                          U.S. Optics 3.2-17x50 for $1200 discount.


                          U.S. Optics 5-25x52 for $1400 discount.

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                          • #14
                            kevins750
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1376

                            Originally posted by sigstroker
                            Holy cats, this must be the weekend for scope bargains.

                            U.S. Optics 3.2-17x50 for $1200 discount.


                            U.S. Optics 5-25x52 for $1400 discount.
                            https://www.swfa.com/u-s-optics-5-25...escope-22.html
                            Vortex gen 2 razors are discounted also
                            As are bushnell DMR pro's
                            "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
                            NRA+CRPA member

                            "Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol" -------Deputy Samuel Gerard

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                            • #15
                              samrob77
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 1432

                              No experience with Sig optics but I posted this in another thread.



                              if you don't care about the color



                              Another option

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