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  • Torrez465
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 20

    .308 or 7.62x39?

  • #2
    sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19112

    7.62x39 would work, but the cheap ammo commonly loaded for it is not "match quality". Bolt guns are getting more popular for it though, so it might be that better and better ammo is becoming available. The Ruger American is chambered in it, I believe, but also the Howa mini-action in a very light and compact rifle is available.

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    • #3
      steelholder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3320

      Look at the cz rifles in 762x39, FINE AS WINE.
      WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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      • #4
        Ora Serrata
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 1686

        7.62x39 is definitely cheaper for ammo, and it doesn't kick as much as .308. If you're keeping it at 200 yrds or closer you'll be fine with 7.62x39. AK's and SKS's are also cheaper than buying a PTR, FAL or M1A if that's what you're looking at.

        If you plan on doing real precision shooting within that 200 yards you'll have more rifle options with the .308 (bolt actions particularly).

        But it comes down to what your interested in. I love having an AK, but I enjoy shooting an M1A more. Recoil doesn't bother me though.

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        • #5
          k1dude
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2009
          • 13194

          If you're worried about stressing your wallet, why are you considering the .308 and 7.62x39? Sure the .308 match rounds can be expensive, but at least you can get match rounds. Try doing that with 7.62x39. Heck, you're going to spend a chunk just for brass cased factory ammo in 7.62x39.

          You should be considering a .223. Comparatively inexpensive and lots of factory match ammo available.
          "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

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          • #6
            TMB 1
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2012
            • 7153

            Get the 308 and get into reloading. Then later get a 300 Blackout. Much larger selection of 308 bullets than 310 bullets.

            If you just want to shoot the cheap steel case 7.62x39 ammo, get an SKS.
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            • #7
              M1NM
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2011
              • 7966

              Originally posted by TMB 1
              Get the 308 and get into reloading. Then later get a 300 Blackout. Much larger selection of 308 bullets than 310 bullets.

              If you just want to shoot the cheap steel case 7.62x39 ammo, get an SKS.
              This - also most of the cheap 7.62x39 ammo is magnetic.

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              • #8
                sigstroker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2009
                • 19112

                If you're going to end up shooting Blackout anyway, no need to do .308 first. Just go straight to Blackout.

                Not many bolt guns chambered in it though.

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                • #9
                  Varg Vikernes
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2831

                  223 is fine to 600y. x39 drops like a brick at 200y though.

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                  • #10
                    MissiontoMars
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1544

                    Originally posted by k1dude
                    If you're worried about stressing your wallet, why are you considering the .308 and 7.62x39? Sure the .308 match rounds can be expensive, but at least you can get match rounds. Try doing that with 7.62x39. Heck, you're going to spend a chunk just for brass cased factory ammo in 7.62x39.

                    You should be considering a .223. Comparatively inexpensive and lots of factory match ammo available.
                    LOL...from his first post. He has a .223.

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                    • #11
                      baih777
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5679

                      Consider a bolt action.
                      6.5 creedmoor
                      Costs the same as 308. But you can buy 130 grain and shoot all day.
                      Save your brass. Reloaders will buy the brass.
                      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                      I'm Back.

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                      • #12
                        TMB 1
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 7153

                        Originally posted by sigstroker
                        If you're going to end up shooting Blackout anyway, no need to do .308 first. Just go straight to Blackout.

                        Not many bolt guns chambered in it though.
                        I thought of that but OP said "I do like the idea of having more stopping power". I pointed out the 300 Blackout because it's cheap to shoot if reloading and uses same size bullets.

                        Ruger and Remington both make bolt action 300 Blackout.
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                        • #13
                          Ora Serrata
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 1686

                          OK, so if you want more stopping power, you're not shooting beyond 200 yards, and you want to keep costs down. You could just get a 300 blackout upper for your existing .223 (assuming it's an AR). In fact you don't even need to get different magazines! Palmetto State Armory has them cheap, they'll ship them to your door. No need to DROS a new gun and you can get ammo at Walmart for less than .308. When the Gun Show comes to town buy a case of 250 rounds for cheap.
                          Last edited by Ora Serrata; 10-11-2018, 2:13 PM. Reason: typo

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                          • #14
                            JTROKS
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 13093

                            7.62x39 will reach 200 yards no problem and with less recoil. Just keep in mind the trajectory is sharp resulting in more bullet drop as the range get farther. I have hunted using 7.62x39 and for feral pigs I had to keep my shots within 200 yards or less. Finding .311” match bullets is not as easy as .308. If you don’t like recoil consider 300 Blackout and reload for it. Quality 7.62x39 rounds aren’t cheap, don’t expect surplus 7.62x39 ammo to give you great accuracy.

                            On the other hand the 308/7.62x51 is a much powerful round. There’s a smorgasbord of match grade ammo and bullets. If you select the right rifle, twist and bullet you can reach 1000 yards easy. If you reload you can select 155 grain HPBT match bullets and start minimum data until you get the most accurate load.

                            If you’re recoil sensitive consider 6.5CM, if I can go back in time I would’ve picked the 6.5CM
                            The wise man said just find your place
                            In the eye of the storm
                            Seek the roses along the way
                            Just beware of the thorns...
                            K. Meine

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                            • #15
                              JackEllis
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 2731

                              OP, if all you're doing is punching paper, why spend the money and go through the bother of buying another rifle that's significantly more expensive to shoot than a .223.

                              For a lot less money you could buy a .22LR and shoot it at distances greater than 50 yards or (if your range allows it) at smaller targets like spent shotshells or spinners.

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