Winchester model 70 long action

[devster55]

Sent a PM to kendog. Gonna start looking at optics now. Budget is 1500-2k for this build. Hopefully it comes out pretty good. Open to any other suggestions.

[LynnJr]

Get a 7 or 8 twist barrel and leave it as a 243 since you already load for it and 1000 yards is a breeze compared to any 308.
If you want to shoot the 110 Sierra bullets get a 7 twist barrel and use H1000 powder.
It will give you about 200 inches less drop than a 308 at 1000 yards.

[devster55]

It’s a g126xxx S/N. I’ll post a picture of it later when I get home.

[devster55]

Here is the gun. Thinking of just getting a new wood stock and putting a heavy 6.5cm barrel on it. Maybe a chassis if I could find one.

[ar15barrels]

Here is the gun. Thinking of just getting a new wood stock and putting a heavy 6.5cm barrel on it. Maybe a chassis if I could find one.

Good luck finding a chassis.
Stick with a conventional stock.
If you really want a chassis, you realistically need a different action.

[devster55]

Good luck finding a chassis.
Stick with a conventional stock.
If you really want a chassis, you realistically need a different action.

[sigstroker]

MDT does/used to. There are still retailers that might have one. XLR does also.

[ar15barrels]

MDT does/used to. There are still retailers that might have one. XLR does also.

MDT no longer lists anything for a Winchester model 70 which means it's pretty much unobtanium if you simply wanted to just go buy one.

XLR states theirs is for a post 64 308/300wsm only.
I don't know why they would be so caliber specific unless there was something different about the way those specific chambered rifles were built.
Perhaps its because the chassis is made for short action magazines which would obviously preclude it's use with standard length or long action chamberings.
If it's just magazine length, you could obviously use it for other 308 class cartridges as well.

[sigstroker]

t took me almost no time to find two vendors that had them.

Important notes on the Model 70 at the bottom of the page.

https://mdttac.com/products/ess-chassis-system

[Thanatos2203]

XLR states theirs is for a post 64 308/300wsm only.
I don't know why they would be so caliber specific unless there was something different about the way those specific chambered rifles were built.
Perhaps its because the chassis is made for short action magazines which would obviously preclude it's use with standard length or long action chamberings.
If it's just magazine length, you could obviously use it for other 308 class cartridges as well.

While I am no expert, I am guessing it has more to do with tooling, supply, and demand. With short action FN and current M70 varmint/heavy barrel pre-64 style rifles being built on the short magnum action it is simpler just to cater to that particular configuration. XLR already sells these, and they are in higher demand than any flavor of push feed M70. If the exterior receiver dimension of the post-64 are similar enough to the pre-64 style in those particular calibers, then a slight modification to the existing tooling would accommodate for them in the event that someone did want one. A lazy but practical solution.

[RNE228]

What happened that the Win70 action fell from favor? The post '64 redesign?

Reading about Hathcock, Land, and others, the Win70 in 30-06 was the go to rifle for match shooting, and for USMC Snipers in 50's and 60's.

Is the Rem700 action that much better than the Win70(understanding all this started 50 years ago...)

When I was taught barreling the M70 was THE rifle used in NM course as well as hunting. Both push and pre 64 types. I cut my teeth on them, and have all the necessary tools and skills to get yours where you need it.
Let me know if I can help.
Ken

[Thanatos2203]

What happened that the Win70 action fell from favor? The post '64 redesign?

Reading about Hathcock, Land, and others, the Win70 in 30-06 was the go to rifle for match shooting, and for USMC Snipers in 50's and 60's.

Is the Rem700 action that much better than the Win70(understanding all this started 50 years ago...)

To my knowledge, pretty much.

In order to compete commercially with Remington, Winchester decided to discontinue their beloved CRF model in favor of a cheaper to manufacture push feed design. People didn't like it, and it was not as popular as the new 700 which was less expensive and then adopted by the military.

The R700 is not better than a CRF M70, it is different. Without the extractor claw, the 700 is cheaper to manufacture and easier for a gunsmith to work on and make accurate.

As far as a post-64 M70 vs a R700, I think you would have to sit them down side by side and decide for yourself.

Current/recent production FN/Winchester M70's and police rifles are great guns, just not very customizable. I was underwhelmed by my last three Remington purchases and would not waste my money today.

[devster55]

Which stock would you recommend? Think I’m gonna buy a hogue unless I should stay away from them. I think I’m gonna go with the barrel below. I appreciate the feedback.

http://www.bugholes.com/product-p/k-6.5mm-8tw-ss-m24-27.htm

[Thanatos2203]

If the goal is still a somewhat affordable target rifle, I would maybe look at a Boyds stock before considering a Hogue. Hogue has the reputation for having soft forends which stop free floating the barrel as soon as you rest it on anything. Something more rigid would probably be better suited. Bell & Carlson I believe makes post-64 stocks as well.

[devster55]

If the goal is still a somewhat affordable target rifle, I would maybe look at a Boyds stock before considering a Hogue. Hogue has the reputation for having soft forends which stop free floating the barrel as soon as you rest it on anything. Something more rigid would probably be better suited. Bell & Carlson I believe makes post-64 stocks as well.