Remington 700 Long Range, thoughts?

[USMCM16A2]

Gents,


Any thoughts for a long range gun that is not a 6.5? https://tsswarehouse.com/shop/rem-70...mington-84166/ A2

[kwsr166]

30-06 is a lot of kick, if your thinking above a .308, how about just go to 300?

[Gunsrruss]

6.5 X 55 Swede Rem 700

I know it's a 6.5, I'm taking mine to Yuma Arizona next week to set it out to 1,000 yards. Friends there will pull targets for me. I will set it to 200-300-400-600-800-900-1,000 yards. It will be my new long range gun. There's not a lot of long range shooting here in Florida. My Rem, 700's in .223-.308 and my M1A are all set out to 2-3-4-600 yards.

[TMB 1]

https://grabagun.com/rem-84166-700-sps-lr-3006.html looks like same rifle $543.56

[ar15barrels]

https://grabagun.com/rem-84166-700-sps-lr-3006.html looks like same rifle $543.56

That's an excellent deal for a heavy barreled and fiberglass stocked target rifle.
The next closest gun remington makes to that would be a 700P in 308 or 300 mag and both of those are over $850 street price.

[smoothy8500]

I think it will serve you well for the price. If you reload it won't be an issue to find a load with 175's taking it to 1K.

[MongooseV8]

I would find one in 7MM Mag. Almost bought one revently.

[LynnJr]

The big question is do you reload? The 30-06 loaded up with a 180 grain bullet or heavier and a big dose of RE22 will do everything you ask of it out to a 1000+ yards.
The good thing about RE22 is you can't get into trouble with it as the 30-06 case only holds a little over 60+ grains when the bullet is seated correctly. With bullets lighter than 180 grains RE22 isn't my choice because you can't get enough of it into the case to produce enough pressure for a clean burn.
And like Randall posted at $534 that's a pretty good deal.

[rm1911]

The big question is do you reload? The 30-06 loaded up with a 180 grain bullet or heavier and a big dose of RE22 will do everything you ask of it out to a 1000+ yards.

The good thing about RE22 is you can't get into trouble with it as the 30-06 case only holds a little over 60+ grains when the bullet is seated correctly. With bullets lighter than 180 grains RE22 isn't my choice because you can't get enough of it into the case to produce enough pressure for a clean burn.

And like Randall posted at $534 that's a pretty good deal.

[michaelthepsycho]

For commercial loadings: less recoil, less drift, less drop, equivalent energy @ 700, more energy at 700 and beyond. I'm comparing 140 ELD-M to 180 SMK @ 2750. If you're reloading, then all bets are off, because you can load 30-06 nuclear (and to an extent, 147 hot as well). It depends on your distance and whether or not you want to put up with recoil. .308 and up, I get fatigue at about 300, 400 rounds. 6.5 I can go all day from sunrise to sunset. Unless hunting sub-600, the 6.5 wins.

[LynnJr]

Gotta ask and you’re about as knowledgeable as anyone on this. Why has the ‘06 gotten a bad rap as far as a long range round goes?

I’ve read on the interwebz how much more accurate the 308 is, etc., and it had something to do with case capacity and empty space, or whatever. I don’t know. But I have an old sporterized 03A3 and a marlin x7l and both can shoot 1” or less with my reloads. And not super attention to detail reloads. Just the basic trim, tumble, resize, then load. No neck turning, etc. In fact that was accomplished with garand loads, 47gr imr 4895 and a 150 sierra or nosler soft tip deer bullets I can’t hunt with anymore. I’d imagine I can if I wanted to, tighten those up a lot. And that was me shooting. (Which means the groups could easily be better!!)

You’d think with a 180 or 190 matchking the ‘06 is ideal. I love the ‘06, and think it’s about as good a round as one can find. I don’t get all the hype over the 6.5CM because the ‘06 can do the same thing with a bigger bullet.

I do own a Ruger predator in 308, because I wanted a lighter weight deer rifle. That was all. It’s a great shooter. But man, a 26” heavy barrel ‘06, that’d be an amazing long range tool.

When the military wants a new chambering they never say we want a new chambering and get it.
They are forced to come up with a list of why the change is necessary.
When they went to 308 the list included less recoil,less fatigue,lighter weight,more ammunition per pound thus more rounds per pallet,better accuracy,.
All of these are true even if only to a very very small degree.
Naturally they left out less range,less power,less velocity which are all important points.
Today with the newer bullets powders and better brass the 30-06 is still the best all around chambering. The jack of all trades.

[TMB 1]

Main reason for the change was coming up with a cartridge short enough to work in all of the different actions of the Allies, so we would all have the same ammo.

They tried 300 Savage but it didn't work well in the 30-06 M1 Garand with chamber insert adapters. One of the reasons they stuck with 30 cal is because of all the WWII 30 cal surplus rifles and barrels the USA had.

[4DSJW]

30-06 or 6.5x55?

If going to a long action length round, is the 30-06, or the 6.5 x 55 swede a better choice? From what I have been reading, the 6.5 round seems to have greater inherent accuracy. Is that always the case, or can you get around that by reloading?

[ar15barrels]

If going to a long action length round, is the 30-06, or the 6.5 x 55 swede a better choice? From what I have been reading, the 6.5 round seems to have greater inherent accuracy. Is that always the case, or can you get around that by reloading?

What are you doing with the rifle?
If you are hunting and NEED lots of energy on target at extended ranges (600+yds), then you might want a 30-06.
If you are target shooting, the 6.5x55 would be a better choice.

[4DSJW]

What are you doing with the rifle?
If you are hunting and NEED lots of energy on target at extended ranges (600+yds), then you might want a 30-06.
If you are target shooting, the 6.5x55 would be a better choice.

For the sake of discussion, let's say it will be used for both (so it will be perfect for neither). Hunting up to an elk sized animal out to 400y, and target shooting out to 1000y. Which round would serve better? Or are they close enough that reloading can make up any difference?