New to precision target shooting.

[NorCalFocus]

[ar15barrels]

But honestly, I don't think the issues are with bisecting the target.. I bet it is a combination of fundamentals leaving town.

Fundementals are probably 80% of it.
Then people's lack of understanding proper parallax adjustment is another 15% and the last 5% is probably aiming error.

WAY too many people blindly trust the parallax markings on the scope to be correct.
I usually see group improvements on about 75% of shooters by simply explaining proper adjustment and how to verify the lack of parallax.

It's often the simplest things...

[ar15barrels]

As you work up a ladder the poi moves. Well for me it does. It will move out of a 3 moa target at some point. I know it’s not where it hits but how well it groups.

You are doing it wrong.
A ladder test is a series of SINGLE shots at long distance with increasing powder charge for each shot.
Ladder testing is to find the accuracy node.



After you find the node, you tweak the OAL in/out until the group tightens up.
You need to be at 300-500yds to get nice big readable ladders like in the target above.
Ladders at 100yds will just look like a strung out group if your rifle is accurate.

Firing groups of multiple shots with the same charge weight to make a group is load testing, not ladder testing.

[longrange1]

and this is exactly why i try to tell new/newish guys to hand loading to shoot OCWs or 3 shot groups like paul reid uses.

http://www.texasprc.club/preidloaddev

ladders are for bench rest and F-class guys not new or average shooters.

[TroopThrowback]

Randall, can you elaborate on this?

Not sure if this got addressed but the diamond shaped target allows you to align the crosshairs of your scope to split the apexes of the diamond at the corners. Your eye will automatically naturally align the apexes with your crosshairs without focusing on them, which is key to good sight picture. Focus on the reticle (NOT the target) and steady pressure on the trigger.

Oh and if you haven't just get Ryan Cleckner's book "The Long Range Shooter's Handbook" and keep it in your range bag!

Long Range Shooting Handbook https://www.amazon.com/dp/151865472X..._Y7kIAb8SW4X3F


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[Spyder]

Primal rights showing up on here. That's funny.