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  • BigFatGuy
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3176

    Expensive scope mounts: what am I missing?

    My scope came with free mounting rings. i can also go and spend hundreds of bucks on rings or monolithic mounts with two rings built into one piece.

    The way I see it, once a ring holds a scope steady, and doesn't kink the mechanism, it's sufficient... in either case there will be locktite and torqued screws, in either case I'll have to zero the scope...

    What am I missing?
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    naeco81
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    • Jun 2013
    • 1811

    Cheap scope mounts have too much play & will work themselves loose even with loctite.
    The recoil from firing is significant stress on the weakest links in your platform, like scope mounts, but whether such small changes matter to you depends on what and how far you're shooting & how long you care your zero holds.
    Other benefits of expensive scope mounts are MOA changes to get you more elevation.
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    • #3
      REDdawn6
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 2447

      Talley and Warne are good
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      • #4
        BigFatGuy
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3176

        Originally posted by naeco81
        Cheap scope mounts have too much play & will work themselves loose even with loctite.
        Well, that would be something. :-)

        What actually got me thinking about this was that I found my scope rings on my 30-06 were a bit loose. I blamed the original installer, but I guess I'll be spending some money if the locktite doesn't hold.
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        I've written up my ongoing adventures as I learn to hunt.

        Yes, you CAN fit a case of shotgun shells into a .50cal ammo can.

        I think i found an optimal solution for ammo can labeling.


        I made this target for the NRA's Marksman pistol test. I think it's a lot better than the paper plate they suggest.

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        • #5
          Ki6vsm
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 2354

          Might not hurt to lap the rings. You'll get better contact between rings and tube.

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          • #6
            Dark Hunt
            Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 420

            90+% of them will work fine and never give you a problem.

            I have scopes in Weaver rings and bases (the cheapest you could buy at the time) mounted on 30.06 sized rifles that haven't moved in 20+ years.
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            • #7
              TMB 1
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2012
              • 7153

              Originally posted by Dark Hunt
              90+% of them will work fine and never give you a problem.

              I have scopes in Weaver rings and bases (the cheapest you could buy at the time) mounted on 30.06 sized rifles that haven't moved in 20+ years.
              ^this^
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              • #8
                Sir Toast
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 3140

                Originally posted by Dark Hunt
                90+% of them will work fine and never give you a problem.

                I have scopes in Weaver rings and bases (the cheapest you could buy at the time) mounted on 30.06 sized rifles that haven't moved in 20+ years.
                True.

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                • #9
                  diver160651
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1764

                  Expensive scope mounts: what am I missing?

                  FYI One piece that you mentioned are often better for cantilever and or travel where frequent removal is needed


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                  • #10
                    Kingair001
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 2357

                    Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                    What am I missing?
                    Buy the cheap ones and that you will know it pretty soon !
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                    • #11
                      BigFatGuy
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3176

                      Originally posted by Kingair001
                      Buy the cheap ones and that you will know it pretty soon !
                      I have cheap ones. Free, in fact. The worst issue on 3 rifles is just this week when I had to put some locktite on one of them.

                      If that's the main issue, I can live with it.
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                      I've written up my ongoing adventures as I learn to hunt.

                      Yes, you CAN fit a case of shotgun shells into a .50cal ammo can.

                      I think i found an optimal solution for ammo can labeling.


                      I made this target for the NRA's Marksman pistol test. I think it's a lot better than the paper plate they suggest.

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                      • #12
                        hermosabeach
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 19389

                        What are you missing- nothing.

                        For the average hunter who shoots 3 - 5 rounds a year, scopes that come with rings are fine.



                        If you have ever shot a box drill, you know what happens to these scopes.

                        If you shoot between 300-900 on a regular basis, then you know what happens with scope and free ring combos.


                        If you have never missed what should have been an easy shot on a hunting trip and then realized that somehow the airline was able to shear off a standard Leopold ring from the base...


                        Then you see why people get rings and bases made from high quality alloys and that are manufactured to a high tolerance. Then lapped before the scope is attached.

                        Same with scopes... they might be the same color but what alloy is used in the tube? What alloy is used in the adjustment gears

                        Etc
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                          Kingair001
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                          • Jul 2015
                          • 2357

                          Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                          I have cheap ones. Free, in fact. The worst issue on 3 rifles is just this week when I had to put some locktite on one of them.

                          If that's the main issue, I can live with it.
                          Than your all set !

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                          • #14
                            TMB 1
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7153

                            Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                            I have cheap ones. Free, in fact. The worst issue on 3 rifles is just this week when I had to put some locktite on one of them.

                            If that's the main issue, I can live with it.
                            These are good low priced rings https://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...er-style-rings
                            These are good too, have these on a couple older rifles https://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...er-style-rings

                            Haven't needed locktite on any of them.
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                            • #15
                              GW
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2004
                              • 16078

                              You're paying all that extra money for strength and durability.
                              If you are jumping out of helicopters or crawling through the rocks in a foreign country then yeah, you need bulletproof mounts but around here for recreational shooting. probably not
                              The $450 for Spuhr cantilever mount could buy you a lot of ammo etc.
                              OTOH, if you can afford them, then why not get the best?
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