high-power "sniper-rifle" platform

[Varg Vikernes]

I think if he has $3000 to work with get a $2000 rifle and $1000 scope.

Probably 308 too since I doubt he is gonna be reloading.

[ar15barrels]

WARNING: Buzz-Killer.

Way too much of Long Range Rifle Shooting is total, total fantasy.

LRRS is about owning the rifle, owning the related gear, playing dress-up, playing bullet hole measuring engineer, yada yada yada. It is always about some piece of gear, yardage or some other irrelevant issue that marginalizes human skill and courage.

We all realize that you only speak for yourself.

[Dave626]

I am a big fan of Rex, and have much respect for him, but $600 bucks is kinda steep

I'm a big fan of Rex too. Put it this way, the stuff you learn from his course will save you more than 600 dollars of ammo/equipment of trial and error yourself

[FluorideInMyWater]

I think if he has $3000 to work with get a $2000 rifle and $1000 scope.

Probably 308 too since I doubt he is gonna be reloading.

actually, once i get a garage/work-space, i'd like to begin reloading

[milotrain]

It is always about some piece of gear, yardage or some other irrelevant issue that marginalizes human skill and courage.

I've only found the opposite on the range. Most people I know shoot such similar loads in .223 or .308 for example that we could trade ammo at the line and not drop many points. It sounds like its all about the gear on the internet because it's not as much fun to talk about meditation or visualization.

Perhaps the most telling thing is the people who I see post, who I also know have won trophies proving their advice is sound, all tend towards the same (it's all a lot simpler than it seams) mindset. Lots of people talk about the gear, lots of people don't shoot that much.

actually, once i get a garage/work-space, i'd like to begin reloading

It's hard to beat a good 308 for practice. It covers such a wide range and is so flexible as far as competition goes that you won't ever go far wrong with a good 308. There are better cartridges for wind bucking, recoil or flat shooting but they all limit you in some way that requires more "non shooting work" to get over compared to the 308. The 308 is limiting but the only work it requires from you is to shoot better.

[splithoof]

LRRS is about owning the rifle, owning the related gear, playing dress-up, playing bullet hole measuring engineer, yada yada yada. It is always about some piece of gear, yardage or some other irrelevant issue that marginalizes human skill and courage.

"marginalizes human skill".......
Uh, NO!.......shooting small targets at long ranges (however you wish to define that), under time pressure, and often at unknown distances in all sorts of weather takes LOTS of dedicated practice. With that practice (if done correctly) comes skill, and this all takes time. Depending on how good you want to get, it can take LOTS of time, travel, expense, etc. It is not irrelevant, and for the rest of us, please expound on what you mean when talking about courage in this context.

[LynnJr]

Post whereabouts you live and someone will suggest a range or competition where you can look at what's being used.

[RedBluff]

WARNING: Buzz-Killer.

Way too much of Long Range Rifle Shooting is total, total fantasy.

LRRS is about owning the rifle, owning the related gear, playing dress-up, playing bullet hole measuring engineer, yada yada yada. It is always about some piece of gear, yardage or some other irrelevant issue that marginalizes human skill and courage.

LMFAO...yup

For me it's the weapon.....it's gotta look sexy hence my Finnish fetish.

[smoothy8500]

WARNING: Buzz-Killer.

Way too much of Long Range Rifle Shooting is total, total fantasy.

Could be he's refering to all the people posting "someday I'd like to shoot 1,000yds but I don't have _____"? You have to admit we see half a dozen of those "fantasy" posts everyday. Yet when other people offer to meet up at some relaxed midrange match, those posters have excuses. So I will agree with hambam105 on this point.

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"marginalizes human skill".......
Uh, NO!.......shooting small targets at long ranges (however you wish to define that), under time pressure, and often at unknown distances in all sorts of weather takes LOTS of dedicated practice. With that practice (if done correctly) comes skill, and this all takes time. Depending on how good you want to get, it can take LOTS of time, travel, expense, etc. It is not irrelevant, and for the rest of us, please expound on what you mean when talking about courage in this context.

I think he's saying you can do all that with a Mosin. If you can shoot a Mosin and put 20 shots in a 3" circle at 100 yards then put 20 shots in a 30" circle at 1000 yards with same rifle, that is human skill. Give the same person a better rifle that shoots smaller groups they"ll hit smaller targets at the same distances.

[LynnJr]

Huh?????
If your rifle shoots 3 inches at 100 yards you would be lucky to hit a 6 foot by 6 foot target at 1000 yards.
A quarter inch gun at 100 will shoot 4 inches to four feet at 1000 yards.

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Huh?????
If your rifle shoots 3 inches at 100 yards you would be lucky to hit a 6 foot by 6 foot target at 1000 yards.
A quarter inch gun at 100 will shoot 4 inches to four feet at 1000 yards.

IDK think this guy could probably do it with a 30" target. Probably keep'em all inside 3" circle at 100 too. Neither rifle is a quarter inch gun.

[FluorideInMyWater]

$3K with a scope or just for the rifle?

You can go full custom for under $3K in parts. + another $1,000 for gun smithing. Then you gotta factor in the scope/rings/etc.

For off-the-shelf, I'd go with the Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor. Then you'll have about $1.5K left over for a scope. I would save up more for good glass if you plan on shooting to 1,000+ yards.

i'm not familiar with that round (6.5). i'll have to read up on it.
what is the $1k for w/ gunsmithing?....is that if i want to go "super custom"?

[FluorideInMyWater]

IDK think this guy could probably do it with a 30" target. Probably keep'em all inside 3" circle at 100 too. Neither rifle is a quarter inch gun.

i LOVE garands. i have 10, but they are all "correct-grade" from the CMP about 15 years ago. i consider those my collectors pieces so i don't shoot them.

i do have a mosin....those are cheap. just need a scope
i'm going to ty to find a source in israel to import Israeli mausers.....if that is still legal (w/ all the licensing and proper paperwork of course) i met a few high ranking officers when i lived there eons ago.....but still in touch. might be able to make that happen. i'm sure those could reach out there.

[Sunday]

It was suggested that i start a new thread for this.....
i'm looking to put together a "sniper-type" rifle for long range target shooting.
i know the old-old platform was the Remington 700 in 308....
what are snipers using as a base platform these days?
i'd like to be able to reach beyond 1000 yards with a good scope.
i'm a lefty and would like a chrome bore and bolt for easier cleaning (unless there is no difference really) i'd like magazine fed. i know you can customize the heck out of these but what would be a good platform....and what are marine snipers using these days (excluding 50-cal)
thanks!!!

original post.
i was looking at savage as well b/c someone in another board mentioned it..
first, i'm not a troll, just a super-noob when i comes to this subject so forgive me for dumb questions....
is it true that basically they are built on the Remington 700 platform?
i'd like to get a rifle that can reach out to about 1000yards. my problem is that i'm a lefty and i'd like a chrome bore and bolt. seems to limit my options...as does my noobie-ness.

i know the original rifles shot by persons such as Carlos Hathcock were the 700's. are the marine sniper rifles still based on remington 700 (or winchester 70's) or are they different beasts altogether? (for the purpose of this conversation let's forget about barrett's and other .50-cals.

noob-question - has anyone seen the series "Shooter" that is the spin-off of Mark Wahlbergs movie? in episode 1 there is a flashback to iraq or afghanistan where he takes out an RPG sticking out of a window. i've tried to find an image but to no avail. it's bolt action and looks to small to be in the m14 crowd. i was wondering if "this rifle" is the standard.........not that this a a good description by any means. i'll have to rewatch the episode to see if i can better identifiy it.
It would be best that you start a new thread.

What is a sniper rifle? Anything like a semi auto assault rifle?