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  • #16
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57157

    Originally posted by Rorge Retson
    How viable/realistic/accurate is this?
    As good as any other factory rifle.
    No sub $1500 factory rifles shoot as well as $2500 custom rifles though.
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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    • #17
      NorCalFocus
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 3913

      Originally posted by Guardian Mode
      Well, it's not out yet. But it looks like it will be pretty soon.
      $680 or so for a Remington 700 in 6.5 Creedmoor
      with a threaded, heavy 22" barrel gets you the most popular action in the most popular caliber.

      The barrel will likely be good enough for 90% of shooters.
      The secret is to just get it into a good, rigid chassis/stock.
      And get a lighter trigger.

      You can go MDT or XLR chassis for under $500,
      but depending how you option them, they can add up.
      Also, the cheaper ones have short forends.
      A Grayboe Renegade/PTG Stealth/Kydex cheek riser combo is about $500.
      Or a KRG XRay is $550.
      A sweet deal is the AB Arms chassis for $630.
      Check that one out, if you want the AR style handguard.
      Or, go AICS or higher end.
      The point is, there are many, many options for the R700.

      Many trigger options, too, from nice to super hero.
      So why spend $680 to end up replacing most of the stuff anyways? If your going to buy the stock/chassis and trigger anyways the only price difference between having a factory barreled action vs a custom custom barreled 700 is a few more hundred dollars for assembly.

      $360 for the action http://www.brunoshooters.com/product/26427.html
      (plus here your only paying sales tax on the $360 action, not a $680 rifle)
      $335 for a barrel http://www.brunoshooters.com/product/16475.html

      Randall can put it together for a reasonable fee. Now its not a full on custom, but it will be a better shooter than just about any factory barreled action.

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      • #18
        ExtremeX
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 7160

        If you are going to get something and get it worked on or even go though the trouble of seeing a gunsmith, maybe its a better idea to start with something like this?

        I'm not sure what it would cost to actually have this type of work done to the action, or if its even really worth it, but it seems nice because its a PTG bolt and knob and a trued up action.



        At this point you are pretty much walking into a Semi-Custom / Custom area...

        I personally haven't gone down this road before... I am generally pretty content with how a factory barreled action shoots, but I have always wanted something like this, just never got around to getting it.

        With all the fuss, I can see why people just want to buy something like an R700 off a shelf and start swapping in/out parts which is how I started.

        I can also see why people want an RPR, its just easy, good enough, turn key... I personally rather have something based on a R700 but I still run a factory barreled action.
        ExtremeX

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        • #19
          NorCalFocus
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 3913

          Originally posted by ExtremeX
          If you are going to get something and get it worked on or even go though the trouble of seeing a gunsmith, maybe its a better idea to start with something like this?

          I'm not sure what it would cost to actually have this type of work done to the action, or if its even really worth it, but it seems nice because its a PTG bolt and knob and a trued up action.



          At this point you are pretty much walking into a Semi-Custom / Custom area...

          I personally haven't gone down this road before... I am generally pretty content with how a factory barreled action shoots, but I have always wanted something like this, just never got around to getting it.

          With all the fuss, I can see why people just want to buy something like an R700 off a shelf and start swapping in/out parts which is how I started.

          I can also see why people want an RPR, its just easy, good enough, turn key... I personally rather have something based on a R700 but I still run a factory barreled action.
          Those actions are not blueprinted in the way you and I think when we read blueprinted. The bolts are fit to the action and thats it. Is it better than a bone stock 700 action, sure. But not $300 better in my opinion.

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          • #20
            ExtremeX
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 7160

            Originally posted by NorCalFocus
            Those actions are not blueprinted in the way you and I think when we read blueprinted. The bolts are fit to the action and thats it. Is it better than a bone stock 700 action, sure. But not $300 better in my opinion.
            Well that sucks... I thought for that price it would have been fully worked up / trued.

            If that is the case and after having to spend a couple hundred more here and there on gunsmiths you might as well just go all the way and get a quality 700 pattern action from one of those other 3rd party companies.
            ExtremeX

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            • #21
              nijikon84
              Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 348

              Originally posted by Guardian Mode
              Well, it's not out yet. But it looks like it will be pretty soon.
              $680 or so for a Remington 700 in 6.5 Creedmoor
              with a threaded, heavy 22" barrel gets you the most popular action in the most popular caliber.

              The barrel will likely be good enough for 90% of shooters.
              The secret is to just get it into a good, rigid chassis/stock.
              And get a lighter trigger.

              You can go MDT or XLR chassis for under $500,
              but depending how you option them, they can add up.
              Also, the cheaper ones have short forends.
              A Grayboe Renegade/PTG Stealth/Kydex cheek riser combo is about $500.
              Or a KRG XRay is $550.
              A sweet deal is the AB Arms chassis for $630.
              Check that one out, if you want the AR style handguard.
              Or, go AICS or higher end.
              The point is, there are many, many options for the R700.

              Many trigger options, too, from nice to super hero.
              To spend an additional $600-800 after rifle, OP should just consider getting a Bergara HMR, Bergara BMP, or just get the RPR. Could just get an optic and not really have to mod those any further.

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57157

                Originally posted by nijikon84
                To spend an additional $600-800 after rifle, OP should just consider getting a Bergara HMR, Bergara BMP, or just get the RPR. Could just get an optic and not really have to mod those any further.
                A factory rifle is still just a factory rifle though.
                No factory rifles consistently shoot as well as gunsmith fitted high end barrels do.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #23
                  Coffeeandgunsandammo
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 1200

                  Turners outdoors has these

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                  • #24
                    Coffeeandgunsandammo
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 1200

                    Originally posted by Coffeeandgunsandammo
                    Turners outdoors has these

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                    Sorry for the terrible screen shots.
                    Turners. Com

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                    • #25
                      nijikon84
                      Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 348

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      A factory rifle is still just a factory rifle though.
                      No factory rifles consistently shoot as well as gunsmith fitted high end barrels do.
                      Agreed.

                      That's why I ordered a Defiance Action and Bartlein barrel and already setup an appointment with you next month

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                      • #26
                        Guardian Mode
                        Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 412

                        Originally posted by NorCalFocus
                        So why spend $680 to end up replacing most of the stuff anyways? If your going to buy the stock/chassis and trigger anyways the only price difference between having a factory barreled action vs a custom custom barreled 700 is a few more hundred dollars for assembly.

                        $360 for the action http://www.brunoshooters.com/product/26427.html
                        (plus here your only paying sales tax on the $360 action, not a $680 rifle)
                        $335 for a barrel http://www.brunoshooters.com/product/16475.html

                        Randall can put it together for a reasonable fee. Now its not a full on custom, but it will be a better shooter than just about any factory barreled action.
                        Oh believe me, I'm a member of the Randall Fan Club, I just don't think everyone has access to a gunsmith they trust or even want to deal with one.
                        Randall's work is money well spent, but I think someone on a budget can get away with a factory rifle as a starter precision gun.
                        This also helps that shooter appreciate what a custom setup with a quality barrel can get you in the future.

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                        • #27
                          Wrangler John
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1799

                          When I build a rifle on a Savage Precision Target Action that needs no additional work for great accuracy (well maybe a couple of small things), then add a top end barrel from Brux, Shilen, Krieger, or Pac-Nor, then add a pillar bedded stock, base and rings, and a scope, it still works out to between $2,500 and $3,000. Even though the Shilen and Pac-Nor are ordered as drop-in barrels (they still run between $500 to $700 depending on options).

                          Do the same with a new bare Remington 700 action, send it out for minimal modifications and even with a Pac-Nor barrel and Rem-Nut, I still spend about the same. Although this rifle can be made to switch between calibers as desired, similar to the Savage. When I saw these offered: http://northlandshooterssupply.com/n...-shot-actions/ I almost got the bug to build another, but I have as much use for another rifle as I do for another dental implant.

                          The most accurate factory rifle I bought was a Sako L461 Benchrest model in 6mm PPC USA. It sits in a place of honor in my safe.

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                          • #28
                            Vacaville
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4360

                            I did my varminter build using the Weatherby Vanguard 2, which has a Howa action and guaranteed sub-MOA accuracy. Put on a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5 - 14X scope and a Harris bi-pod with Talley rings. Total cost about $900. Highly recommend either the Vanguard or a Tikka as your base rifle if you're on a budget.
                            Last edited by Vacaville; 06-21-2017, 1:56 PM.

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                            • #29
                              waveslayer
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1728

                              Go RPR and buy a new custom barrel a few guys are doing and you are golden and in it much less then building a rig.

                              PM I can get you a customed rig for about $2,000 and it will shoot sub 1/2 MOA all day long it will be based off a Tikka action

                              My wife thinks I only have 3 guns

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                              • #30
                                Rorge Retson
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 2712

                                Originally posted by Vacaville
                                I did my varminter build using the Weatherby Vanguard 2, which has a Howa action and guaranteed sub-MOA accuracy. Put on a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5 - 14X scope and a Harris bi-pod with Talley rings. Total cost about $900. Highly recommend either the Vanguard or a Tikka as your base rifle if you're on a budget.
                                I did not find a Vanguard 2 here on Weatherby's site.

                                Is this possibly the one you are talking about?

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