Where does "Long Range" start?

[garyngwind]

US Army marksmanship test has man size target at 300 yards, and they are using iron sights. So yea....
To shoot long range, it is not as simple as aim and squeeze anymore, you have to know your rounds, how many inches it drop at what range, how will temperature, humidity, air pressure will affects the round.
For me, if you are trying to get into long range shooting, your goal should be 1000 yards, that should be the qualification of calling it long range, then another beyond that is just you pushing the limit.
on the side note, 308 is a good round to start as you will learn more about elevation and windage adjustment as oppose if you use say, 6.5mm

[shortround1]

672.351 yards, give or take a thousandth.

[KillZone45]

It's tough with .308. Once the projectile goes subsonic everything changes.

I don't long distance well, someone who does will come along soon.

With the new Warner Tools Flatlines projos you can do 1500 yards out of a 20" barreled 308, anything less ain't gonna cut it. $1 a boolit though

To the OP I'd say over 1000 yards is getting into longer range.

[damndave]

For 308 the goal is 1000 yrds. Might have some trouble without 175gr+ weight bullets though. 800-900 yrds shouldn't really be a problem assuming the wind is low. But getting hits at 1000 yrds with ammo like PMC etc is just luck.

223, my goal was 600 yrds with at least a 69gr bullet.

[Calico1404]

So we did it. Between 4 of us we each hit 500 yards with .223 AE Varmit tip 50g. Wind was about 17 mph which lead to a large windage comp.

The space we had was limited to 500 with a clear and high enough backstop, our next trip we will locate new ground to obtain 700.

Why did we use 50g varmit? Just due to its availability in the range box, this was for fun. We also tried PMC and had some good luck.

HOWEVER< with with .308 we were struggling to hit 300 consistent. The wind had a lot to do with it I am sure, the main thing we were lacking was knowledge and experience so time to work on some math. It seems the 308 takes a major drop at around 200 and some change, it was difficult to adjust for hold over going out to 500 with that drop.

[NorCalFocus]

Get some match ammo, clean the rifles bore, re-season it with the new match ammo. Then try again.

[Calico1404]

Get some match ammo, clean the rifles bore, re-season it with the new match ammo. Then try again.

I have a new appreciation for "Good ammo" I tried a box of Tula .308 and I spent more time trying to remove the spent steel case then I did looking down range. No more of that!

[desert dog]

With the guns, ammo, and reloading supplies available today to anyone at a reasonable price - the bar is always being raised. Add in simple modern ballistics apps that anyone can master, improved laser range finders, modern optics, and the power of the internet for learning shooting techniques and just about anyone can shoot long with a little practice nowadays. This was not the case 30 years ago.

When I was young:
Long-range bench shooting = 600 yards
Long-Range hunting = 300 yards

Now:
Long-range bench shooting = 1000 yards
Long-range hunting = 500 yards

[smoothy8500]

It seems the 308 takes a major drop at around 200 and some change, it was difficult to adjust for hold over going out to 500 with that drop.

It's not that major of a drop. Rule of thumb for adding elevaton:
100 to 200 2MOA
200 to 300 3MOA
300 to 600 10MOA
We're only shooting "midrange"-up to 600yds. Forget holdovers, just learn to turn the knob on your scope(or the rear sight for irons).

[LynnJr]

Long-range for 22 long rifle starts at 200 yards
Long-range for most calibers posted here starts at 601 yards
Long-range for the larger cartridges 338 and above starts at 1200 yards.
There are exceptions to everything.

[0celot]

IMHO that's quite a subjective question based on what you're shooting and what your skill level is. Long range with a rifle IMO starts around 6-700m, but I've had tons of practice. For some it starts at 200m.