Where does "Long Range" start?

[Calico1404]

Is it the BDC reticle?

Prefect, thats 1/4 MOA per click. Now stop talking about inches. A MOA is a MOA no matter what distance your shooting. Don't do extra math to translate from MOA to inches. So your Sterlock app will say dial 10 MOA for 500 yards. Dial up to 100 on the scope and call it good.

Make sense? Hope I'm not confusing you. lol.

It is BDC , and yes that does make sense, the app calls for MOA adjustments in 1 MOA variables so I would just multiply by 4 to get my "click adjustment" . I get it.

Thanks for the good info.

[NorCalFocus]

It is BDC , and yes that does make sense, the app calls for MOA adjustments in 1 MOA variables so I would just multiply by 4 to get my "click adjustment" . I get it.

Thanks for the good info.

Yup you bet. Also play with Vortex's LRBC on their site. You can even select your scope and it will give you a hold over chart for the BDC.

[ar15barrels]

This weekend a few buddies and I are headed to the desert for a little equipment testing and plinking. This got us thinking on where to start?

Traditionally we always sit a steel plate at 100 and 200 with random targets between. Any suggestions on short, mid and long placement, with the mid being a likely zero? Google says 546 (550) what say you?

The NRA definitions:
200yds and less is short range
200-600yds is mid range
Beyond 600yds is long range
Beyond 1200yds is commonly referred to as extended long range.

[Calico1404]

The NRA definitions:
200yds and less is short range
200-600yds is mid range
Beyond 600yds is long range
Beyond 1200yds is commonly referred to as extended long range.

I have a range finder that is rough out to about 600.

Thinking we will set at 100 (Zero), 300 and 600. This will give us a good stage. Next trip will be 100 (confirm zero) 600 and 1000 then I will come back and get kudos from some, cr** talk from others ha!

[Hairball]

Just use the range finder and leap-frog it out there. Set up at 100, 200, 400 then stand at the 400 and set your next line at 600, 800, 1000. it's not the distance that will get you, it's the ability to correctly call and adjust for the wind. Good luck and have fun.

[CessnaDriver]

Hell 100 yards feels like long range when you first start.
Keep stretching out, keep it a challenge.

[JTROKS]

With the current equipment available 1200 yards is not even long range for people with 35mm tube $3K scopes sitting on 40moa base and firing 338 Lap Improved or 408 CheyTac. For me long range depends on the equipment. I've shot my hunting rifle in 270 Win out to 1K yards and my uncle thought it was impossible using 10x 30mm tube scope. He was amazed how easy it was when all was dialed in and timing the wind read. I put together my Rem 700 in 300 WSM in the hopes of doing 1500-1800 yard shooting. Now I just drool over the peeps equipment in the 2.5K+ yard club.

[diver160651]

beyond that is getting into extreme long range.

Extended Long Range = ELR ~ the newer use of "Extreme" seems to go hand in hand with the timing of new interest in ELR and the Di*# waging of people like Hill Country Rifles style of M2 machine gunning, hoping for an impact on large targets with full disregard to how much larger the circular error of probability is than the target: http://hillcountryrifles.com/hcr/new...015-4210-yards

[bsumoba]

The NRA definitions:
200yds and less is short range
200-600yds is mid range
Beyond 600yds is long range
Beyond 1200yds is commonly referred to as extended long range.

I tend to agree with this

[glockman19]

I am getting into bolt actions a bit more, and I am loving it.

This weekend a few buddies and I are headed to the desert for a little equipment testing and plinking. This got us thinking on where to start?

Traditionally we always sit a steel plate at 100 and 200 with random targets between. Any suggestions on short, mid and long placement, with the mid being a likely zero? Google says 546 (550) what say you?


Rough specs

Mossberg flex 556 standard pmc Bronze 55g

Savage Axis .308 standard pmc Bronze 147g

Ruger American .308 standard pmc Bronze 147g

Get a ballistics calculator.

A speer 55g FMJ BT @ 3200 FPS at the muzzle and a 100 yard zero has a 88.1" drop at 600 yards. at a 25 yard zero the drop is 69.38" @ 600 yards.

A Winchester 147g FMJ MATCH @ 2900 FPS at the muzzle and a 100 yard zero has a 81.01" drop at 600 yards. At a 25 yard zero the drop is 63.86" @ 600 yards.

That's with a LOS angle of 14 degrees. sight height of 1.5". Altitude, wind speed and wind direction will all add to the difference in travel and impact.

You might want to change your ammo for those longer shots. Something with a heavier bullet, 175+ grain with higher muzzle velocities.

[Calico1404]

Just use the range finder and leap-frog it out there. Set up at 100, 200, 400 then stand at the 400 and set your next line at 600, 800, 1000. it's not the distance that will get you, it's the ability to correctly call and adjust for the wind. Good luck and have fun.

^^ so simple and I didnt even consider that ha!!

[jtv3062]

Since you guys already do 100 200 yards the next step I would take is go to 300 and work on out. Figure your rifles out as you go.

[Divernhunter]

For some days it would be 100 yards for me when I am shooting bad.
Other days much longer.

[russ69]

As far as NRA is concerned,for competition mid range goes out 600yds,with long range being 800-1000yds.

/endthread

[triggs75]

I would set a paper target at 100 to confirm your zero then your steel probably at 300 then 600.

When I first went out to BLM to stretch it out I did the 100 paper, then 300 and 550 steel. When not going for groups the 300 and 500 you will find to be real easy. We then took our steel out to 750, 900 then 1000. The 750 was still pretty easy to hit the steel but after that is when we were getting more misses ok N the steel.