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  • Xtracrispy
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1330

    What caliber is this rifle?

    So a while back my friend picked up a Springfield 1903A3 barreled receiver that was supposed to be chambered in 25-06. He bought a box of 25-06 Remington and after shooting it was quickly determined that it was not 25-06 Rem.

    What does it look like? After some research it looks like maybe 25 Gibbs, But there also seems to be a 6mm Gibbs and 6.5 Gibbs. A loaded 25-06 falls into the chamber so far the extractor won't grab it(because of the different shoulder), so I'm assuming it's not a 6mm.

    Obviously we would need to measure the actual barrel diameter to know for sure what size bullet it is, but are we on the right track?



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  • #2
    LynnJr
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7957

    Looks like a Gibbs maybe an Ackley Improved.
    Measure the fired rounds neck and that will tell you the caliber. Harbor freight calipers run $15 and will work good enough for this purpose.
    To avoid the casehead separations you can fireform using red dot or unique and Cream of Wheat breakfast cereal.
    Start at 12 grains.
    Last edited by LynnJr; 02-19-2017, 6:52 PM.
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    • #3
      scamp62
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1009

      +1 on AI

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57103

        That is NOT a 25.06 AI.
        That fired case has a much shorter neck and the neck-shoulder junction looks forward quite a bit as evidenced by the case failure.
        A proper 25-06 AI would fire standard 25-06 ammo with no headspace or case failure issues.
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        • #5
          ElvenSoul
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2008
          • 17431

          25 Remington the long forgotten

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          • #6
            ElvenSoul
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 17431

            The only other .25's are

            .257 Roberts
            250-3000 Savage
            257 Weatherby
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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57103

              Originally posted by ElvenSoul
              25 Remington the long forgotten

              http://www.chuckhawks.com/25_remington.htm
              You are so far off base that you are not even on the same kind of playing field.
              Take that volleyball and get off the football field..
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                LynnJr
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7957

                The 25 Remington had a long neck and doesn't look like that case in the picture.
                And they make a 25 WSM and a 25/284 and about 60 other wildcats as well.
                25 Ackley Krag
                25 BR Spencer
                25 Gibbs
                25 IHMSA
                25 Krag
                25 MRC
                25 STW
                25 WSM
                25 x 257
                250-3000 Ackley
                25-06 Ackley
                25-06 Mashburn Improved
                25-270
                25-270 ICL
                25-275 Hoffman
                25-284 Winchester
                25-6.5 Remington Magnum
                257 Ackley .284 neck
                257 Banshee
                257 Brotherton
                257 Roberts Ackley
                257 Roberts Ackley .284 neck
                257 TCU
                6.35 x 59mm
                25 RUSM
                25/300 Ultra Mag
                .25/26 Nosler
                Last edited by LynnJr; 02-19-2017, 10:03 PM.
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                • #9
                  SonofWWIIDI
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 21583

                  Perhaps you might consider casting the chamber?

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                  • #10
                    kblack583
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 704

                    This looks close.

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                    • #11
                      Horrendo Revolver
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 1013

                      You are actually looking for the cartridge the rifle is chambered for, not just the caliber.

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                      • #12
                        Pofoo
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1680

                        Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                        Perhaps you might consider casting the chamber?

                        This video give a pretty good over all process, but, there are a few things to be aware of. Primarily, don't over fill the action into the locking lug recess. You wouldn't be able to pop out the casting.

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                        • #13
                          FLIGHT762
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3071

                          Look at the bolt face. See if it has been opened up from a standard face to a magnum case head.

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                          • #14
                            Xtracrispy
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1330

                            Thanks for the input. Seems to confirm our fears that it's a wildcat. We knew it was a long shot but were hoping someone would chime in and say "That's definitely an xyz commercialy produced round". After talking to him it sounds like he is going to sell it and get a 30-06 barreled action. If it's any of the cartridges it seems like it is, they are too rare and expensive for him and his cheap range toy.

                            I might mess around with it some more for some closure, but I don't know that it matters too much exactly what it is at this point.
                            The actual value of above $.02 is less than $.01 after taxes.

                            Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                            I love meat. All in my mouth. Juices flowing down my mouth. And Id swallow

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                            • #15
                              NapalmCheese
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 5953

                              Originally posted by LynnJr
                              And they make a 25 WSM
                              25 WSSM



                              Apparently 25 WSM had/has pressure issues while 25 WSSM was better behaved; thus winchester only produced the WSSM.
                              Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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