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  • #16
    LynnJr
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7956



    Remington 700's come in short action and long action lengths.
    In general the short actions use 308 and shorter length cartridges because most shooters want repeaters. In the real world if you don't care about single feeding ammo you can use the short action for 90%+ of all cartridges.
    The long actions are roughly 1 inch longer and are used for 30-06 length cartridges or longer.
    In the real world if your not worried about repeaters and can single feed your gun the long action can be used for 90%+ of all cartridges.
    A 338 Lapua on a short action means you would pull the bolt each shot to feed the round which for most shooters is too much trouble.
    A 14 Flea on a long action likewise means you will have to stand the gun up to get the empty case out after firing each shot.
    Pacific Tool and Gauge makes replacement bolts so either action can use 90%+ of all available chamberings upon a rebarreling.
    Some are more practical than others but they can all be made to work.
    The pictures show a long action 700 a recoil lug from Pacific Tool and Gauge and a 300 AAC barrel a 243 barrel and a 7 RUM barrel.
    It takes 2 minutes to swap the barrels. You clamp the barrel in a barrel vise insert an action wrench and back off the action. You put the recoil lug on the new barrel and torque the new barrel into place. A $25 recoil lug alignment tool is used to keep the recoil lug in the same position for each barrel so you don't have to rebed the lug each time.
    Most shooters are afraid to perform these steps as they think it is voodoo but if you can change a flat tire you can swap out barrels on a Remington.
    Last edited by LynnJr; 04-15-2017, 5:21 PM.
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    • #17
      Varg Vikernes
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2831

      The cost to rebarrel one rifle in tools is probably more than just letting a qualified smith do it. I could see if you have multiple rifles and shoot a lot yea it might make sense to learn it yourself and buy the tools.

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      • #18
        LynnJr
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2013
        • 7956

        The tools are a $65 barrel vice a $25 recoil lug alignment tool and a $40 action wrench or $130.
        The ADL sells for $400 and the 5R sells for more than $600 more.
        For $600 he owns the tools and gets a custom barrel plus he has enough leftover for a trigger.
        Most shooters would shoot much smaller groups if they bought a factory action and added a RemAge barrel to it rather than buying what most consider a upscale 700.
        That said most will never go that route and the factories are making a killing off of that.
        Last edited by LynnJr; 02-12-2017, 11:53 AM.
        Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
        Southwest Regional Director
        Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
        www.unlimitedrange.org
        Not a commercial business.
        URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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        • #19
          nidm
          Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 468

          Originally posted by LynnJr


          Remington 700's come in short action and long action lengths.
          In general the short actions use 308 and shorter length cartridges because most shooters want repeaters. In the real world if you don't care about single feeding ammo you can use the short action for 90%+ of all cartridges.
          The long actions are roughly 1 inch longer and are used for 30-06 length cartridges or longer.
          In the real world if your not worried about repeaters and can single feed your gun the long action can be used for 90%+ of all cartridges.
          A 338 Lapua on a short action means you would pull the bolt each shot to feed the round which for most shooters is too much trouble.
          A 14 Flea on a long action likewise means you will have to stand the gun up to get the empty case out after firing each shot.
          Pacific Tool and Gauge makes replacement bolts so either action can use 90%+ of all available chamberings upon a rebarreling.
          Some are more practical than others but they can all be made to work.
          The pictures show a long action 700 a recoil lug from Pacific Tool and Gauge and a 300 AAC barrel a 243 barrel and a 7 RUM barrel.
          It takes 2 minutes to swap the barrels. You clamp the barrel in a barrel vise insert an action wrench and back off the action. You put the recoil lug on the new barrel and torque the new barrel into place. A $25 recoil lug alignment tool is used to keep the recoil lug in the same position for each barrel so you don't have to rebed the lug each time.
          Most shooters are afraid to perform these steps as they think it is voodoo but if you can change a flat tire you can swap out barrels on a Remington.
          Lynn,

          thanks for the info. very helpful. It will take me quite a while to have the ability to truly appreciate a 338. Therefore, a short action with 223 or 308 sounds good to me. The dicks' deal will run for a week, so I won't rush into it today, through I am currently leaning toward to get the ADL.

          btw, I just clicked your website. "2000yard for Novice Shooter".... well, that is discouraging... :-)

          nidm

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          • #20
            nidm
            Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 468

            Originally posted by anonymous308
            OP I get your thought process but along with the "buy once cry once" advise I would say not to spend good money after spending bad money. Now I'm not saying the ADL is a bad buy but ultimately you would be better served putting that money aside and saving it up to do it the way you really want.
            thanks for trying to pull me out of this purchase. while I am leaning to do it anyway, but do appreciate your words as it is my original plan.

            I guess my reason is I am able to resell the ADL(if not to custom it) after two years and 500 rounds , and still get $350~400 back. Then, it doesn't sounds a bad purchase anymore.

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            • #21
              nidm
              Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 468

              Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
              Sounds like he's pretty green and wouldn't really know what he wants anyways.
              well, fair statement though I hate to admit.

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