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  • #76
    Smoothie
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 51

    I just picked up my Cimarron model 1873 short rifle with 20" oct barrel in 357mag/38sp (model CA271). I had inspected it before but didn't really have a chance to try out the cycling. To this end I got a set of snap caps in 357mag and another in 38sp. The cycling feels nice and solid, there's no play in the lever or elsewhere, it's a bit heavy, but never gritty or uneven. The 357 snap caps cycle perfectly. The 38sp don't cycle at all, they're simply too short and the lifter snags on the end flange of the next round in the tube. So I took out a box of PMC 38SPL Bronze I bought to try it with, and those rounds are significantly longer than the snap caps, in fact they're within 1mm of the 357mag I have also. They're the same length as the 357mag snap caps actually. So I feel confident they won't get stuck in the lifter in actual use like the snap caps did. (Didn't test it with live ammo.)

    Overall I'm very happy with it - this is my first lever rifle. It's a beauty. I do see why people sometimes wrap the lever eye though... Or wear gloves. I might get a pair of elkskin ropers to go with this rifle.

    Checking with a cleaning patch it picked up carbon around the chamber area, so seems like it was test fired at the factory.

    The woodwork on it is gorgeous. Love it. Can't wait for the rains to end so I can go shoot it!

    Uberti does a really nice job on these...
    Last edited by Smoothie; 01-21-2017, 6:18 PM.

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    • #77
      montesf1030
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2016
      • 64

      The Henry Big Boy Steel in the 357 !!! Very nice shooter and smooth action


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      Las Vegas NV
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      • #78
        200Apples
        -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2011
        • 7217

        Smoothie

        I just picked up my Cimarron...

        If'n you don't mind, where did you have this transferred? and were you able to choose from in-store stock or did you have to order this fine piece...

        Thanks in advance. Congrats!

        :-)
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        • #79
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10551

          My Rossi 92 .357 carbine has trouble with truncated cone soft nose 158 gr bullets. SWC and round nose do fine but the OAL on the truncated cone bullets is just a tad wrong. They hang up as the round is chambering. Otherwise it feeds other .357 and .38s just fine.

          I recommend the Rossi product. I have both the .357 and .44 versions. One caution: the firing pin broke in my .357 after decades of use. Probably dry firing contributed to the problem. I don't dry fire it any more.

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          • #80
            Hoop
            Ready fo HILLARY!!
            • Apr 2007
            • 11534

            The Uberti 1873 is the one I like, not sure I wanna blow 1000+ bucks just to have one for the sake of having it though.

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            • #81
              Den60
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2016
              • 2695

              I just DROSed a Henry H006M. It is a tube loader rather than a side gate loader. I did look at Marlin which has had some QC problems in the past. I have been told they have improved in quality in recent years.


              Mojave Lever Crew Member

              "It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day. Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down." - Kamala "Heels Up" Harris

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              • #82
                Smoothie
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 51

                Originally posted by 200Apples
                If'n you don't mind, where did you have this transferred? and were you able to choose from in-store stock or did you have to order this fine piece...
                I couldn't find any Cimarron dealers anywhere near so bought it online from Buds. They have a set of FFLs pre-registered and setup to accept orders; I had it shipped to South City Pawn (Cash And Loan Inc I think is the name) in South San Francisco. It's a very smooth and easy process, and obviously Buds has a lot more inventory than any LGS. Still, I prefer to use my LGS where possible and prefer not to buy the pig in the sack so to speak. Price wise it comes out to about the same - Buds is cheaper but the transfer fees eat up some of it, and you get to wait a few more days. Still, the entire transaction was super easy - pick an FFL from their list at checkout, pay, get order status updates by email, check tracking, wait for the call, go do DROS, go pickup.

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                • #83
                  Smoothie
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 51

                  Originally posted by Hoop
                  The Uberti 1873 is the one I like, not sure I wanna blow 1000+ bucks just to have one for the sake of having it though.
                  It only hurts once...

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                  • #84
                    packnrat
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3939

                    any Henry made lever will keep you happy and your grand kids happy for there live also.

                    Henry is the leading lever-action firearms manufacturer in the USA. All Henry lever action rifles and shotguns are "Made in America, Or Not Made At All."




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                    big gun's...i love big gun's

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                    • #85
                      Smoothie
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 51

                      I wrote re: Cimarron Model 1873 short rifle:
                      Originally posted by Smoothie
                      Can't wait for the rains to end so I can go shoot it!
                      Just to follow up... I can report it shoots beautifully. .38sp feels like .22 and if I didn't pull the trigger I'd have a hard time telling if it went click or actually fired at the busy range. When my wife tried it out I had a hard time telling when she shot. .357mag has a tiny bit of kick, and I think this is by far my favorite, so this is probably what I'll be using. Once I figured out how far in the last round should be loaded to prevent overlapping rounds I had zero cycling problems with either .38sp or .357mag. Both PMC (if memory serves). Sights good out of the box. Easy and super fun shoot off hand, easily every shot within the black of a 100yd NRA rifle target at 50yds, maybe a 4-5" group spread and that's probably my off hand technique - or lack thereof - more than the rifle. Smooth and easy to operate. I like it - a lot!

                      I now have a Cimarron 1872 Navy 7.5" in 38sp on order to go with it...

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                      • #86
                        ianS
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1108

                        For just fun on the range: Henry

                        Range and potentially Home Defense: Rossi 92 or other 1892 clone with loading gate on the frame.

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                        • #87
                          sling works
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 36

                          A Marlin 94 is the best choice. Henry is more of a cheap gun.

                          You should buy a pre-Rem Marlin. Luckily that's about 99% of the 1894s out there.
                          Last edited by sling works; 04-04-2017, 11:33 AM.

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                          • #88
                            champu
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1981

                            Originally posted by champu
                            Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                            A lever gun in .357 / .38 will be my first long gun purchase of 2017.
                            Yeah, I'm probably going to buy one of these in 2017:
                            https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/all-weather-big-boy/
                            Okay. My Money -> Where my Mouth Is. Here she is with her .357 traveling companion, the S&W 686+.



                            Trigger is very consistent at just under 4 lbf; action cycled smoothly all day; shot 150 rounds through it; loads of fun to shoot at a dueling tree.

                            My only problem is that my wife says it's her new favorite gun to shoot, so I don't know how much I'm going to be able to use it.
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                            • #89
                              Sputnik
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 2114

                              Originally posted by lightcav
                              I just cant get into the new Henry designs.

                              I want something closer to an original 1800s design. For me that means something based on the '66, '73, or '92 albeit with the modern chambering in .357 and other contemporary differences.
                              Then there's Henry's newest...a recreation of the original 1860 Henry rifle that Henry Repeating Arms took their name from:
                              Benjamin Tyler Henry - Inventor In the late 1850s, metallic cartridges were the coming wave of firearms technology, and besides the difficulties inherent to developing reliable and effective self-contained rounds the new ammunition demanded equally new gun designs capable of taking full advantage of what the quick-loading cartridge offered. Cartridges that revolutionized a field of


                              Honestly it looks sweet but its not in my budget right now.

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                              • #90
                                Sputnik
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 2114

                                Originally posted by scotchblade
                                In two pages of threads, the name Uberti only came up 5 times, some of it in quoted text.

                                I'm sure they are fine guns, maybe not as popular? I've had my eye on a Trapper Carbine, but just haven't bit the bullet and pulled the trigger.
                                Uberti is very popular with cowboy shooters. I think that here on CGN there just isn't as much interest in "historically correct" lever guns as you see at CAS matches.

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