Savage - what's the diff?

[milleniumdude1999]

Nice barrel vice Bloodhawk! Others should not be discouraged if the don't have one. One can get it done with a decent vice and 2x4s with a hole drilled through the middle and then cut in half. You will need three pieces to grab enough area to eliminate slipping. YouTube has plenty of examples of how to giterdone.

If ya have a smooth barrel nut on a savage, just save some grief and use a pipewrench to take it off, then replace the but switch a grooved nut.

Savage shooters has lots of info there. Not knocking Rems, they are a fine rifle, but the savage design is a better design for simple barrel swaps.

One can make a case either way. Savage means you do not need an action wrench.

Re. Axis, many people think the action is stronger than 110/10, it's a theory, I don't find unreasonable, but the reality is, it doesn't make that much of a diff. If action strength is this important, time to buy a target action and build from there.

Savage is less expensive than Remington on a build basis. More aftermarket parts for 700, but savage is catching up fast. Dude Abides....

Tools required to swap barrels:
Common sense and patience
Head space gauges, go, no go in calibers,
Vice or barrel vice
Barrel wrench
2x4
Drill
3/4 or 5/8 paddle bit
Saw
Pipewrench for smooth barrel
Brassvwire brush to clean barrel threads after removing but
Anti seize for new nut

Remington, add an action wrench to the list.

[2shotjoe]

Few more pics, top was the stock barrel. This one is the new one.



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[Tahoeshooter]

I don't have any experience with the Mossberg you're considering, but the Savages do tend to be pretty accurate out of the box. I bought a 114 American Classic (Monte Calro) in 7RM and I don't know if the vertical stringing problem I have is me or the gun or my loads, but it commonly shoots .1" x .4" @ 100, and 1" @ 300 yards.

In 243 you will have a very fun gun to shoot. If it's strictly for bench or what I call "installation shooting", meaning from a single base position that you don't hike miles to get to, a you will appreciate a heavier barrel due to easier load development and heat dissipation. It's a low recoil round that can reach out with great accuracy. I got one because a guy saw me target long range practicing with a 270 and said showed me the 243. I got one and 1800 rounds later the Xbolt is still a tack driver, but I'm thinking of getting a heavy barrel model with thumbhole or tactical stock just for installation shootiing. Xbolt goes on spotting & stalking hunts.

[milleniumdude1999]

Mossberg has their MVP light chassis system. It's made by MTD. Nice rifle, but not match ready. Trophy hunter is a not a big deal, just a price point, with sporter barrel. I have built rifles from trophy hunters as donors. .243 is a low recoil accurate round, but more expensive to shoot factory, than .308. I would go 6.5 cm off .308 bolt pattern, for more flexibility.

No one shoots 243 in matches. 6mm, 260 rem are the rage for good reason.

Mossberg does not have the breadth of aftermarket barrels for the diy. It's a nice platform for the money, as long as you don't plan on tinkering with it too much.


Ruger precision is roughly the same. Elbow grease and a little more and can have a rig with match barrel that will run with anything out there.

Savage has a chassis now too. Yep, it's bty MTD, like mossberg!

Go varmint contour, savage match grade aftermarket barrel on an axis with mtd and magpul stock!

Buy a cheap .308 and throw a 6.5 cm barrel on it from apache!

Sell the factory barrel on ebay. For funds

Do the trigger screw mod.

289 rifle
250 barrel Apache high end 26"
399 mtd
150 magpul
399 Bluecade scope

$1500 and it will rock!

Hunting, just buy an axis, they are minute of deer easy. Their heavy barrels are varmint contour and a nice compromise, but short for precision rifle. They do shoot well!
Pillar bed and float it in a boyds featherweight thumbhole for $150, it will shoot!
Trigger screw mod.
Choose a hunting optic second focal plane a la nikon buckmaster. Don't try to make a hunting rifle tactical. It's a wasted effort.

$450 bucks, plus optics and some elbow grease.
This 450 formula is more capable than a lot of shooters. Learn to dope wind and range.


Oh and by Axis I meant Axis with no accutrigger, go Axis II for accutrigger.