Got wood or go limp?

[Bushwack44]

1. For those far more experienced with rifles, would the bite/recoil on a synthetic stock rifle (i.e. Rem 783) in 243 be noticeably less then a Rem 700 in 270? I'm not a fan of synthetic stocks but that is where the platform continues to go (maybe I need to adjust my thinking). Scenario is range shooting with and without the use of a bipod or shooting bag.

2. Kind of related to the first question, I'd like to get a rifle in 243 for under $600 (for range use). If with a wood stock and scope, any (good or bad) thoughts on a Mossberg Patriot with a 3-9x40 scope (http://www.mossberg.com/wp-content/u...D-COMBOS.pdf)? Reviews seem to be positive. Any suggestions to consider another brand (must be a wood stock and come w/ a scope).

Thanks.

[NapalmCheese]

For those far more experienced with rifles, would the bite/recoil on a synthetic stock rifle (i.e. Rem 783) in 243 be noticeably less then a Rem 700 in 270? Scenario is range shooting without the use of a bipod or shooting bag.

The 783 is somewhat heavy.
The .243 shoots a small bullet.

The 700 probably weighs about the same.
The .270 shoots a slightly larger bullet using more powder.

All things considered, the .243 will recoil less. Given my druthers, I'll take the .243.

[Varg Vikernes]

You can probably get a replacement stock from Boyd's for pretty cheap. What are you using the rifle for?

[NorCalFocus]

The heavier the stock is the less recoil your going to feel. Wood generally weighs more than those cheap plastic stocks.

[Bushwack44]

The heavier the stock is the less recoil your going to feel. Wood generally weighs more than those cheap plastic stocks.

That's logical - thanks. But would a 243 in synthetic offer less recoil than a 270 in wood?

[NorCalFocus]

That's logical - thanks. But would a 243 in synthetic offer less recoil than a 270 in wood?

Most likely yes.

But the other side to this argument, is .243 is a better target round vs .270. I would not want to shoot 30+ rounds of .270 in a range session.

[as_rocketman]

Felt recoil is all about how the stock fits you. M1903 bites me hard, whereas a Browning A-bolt shooting the same cartridge -- and weighing less -- doesn't.

Once we've established the stock fits you properly and your technique is correct, then you can factor in rifle weight and brakes, that kind of thing. .243 is indeed less recoil than .270, but .270 really isn't too bad as power goes... very different tools. My hunting round of choice is .270 but if I was getting into the long-range precision game, I'd go with .243.

[Divernhunter]

Yes the 243 has less recoil. Lighter bullet(usually) and less powder.
Yes a stock design can change the recoil feels.
There are charts which show the foot pounds of recoil for many cartridges you can look up.

[TMB 1]

Felt recoil from the 243 will be less even with the plastic stock. If you don't like the plastic stock you can get a wood stock from Boyds.

This is a Remington 783 with Boyds Classic pepper laminated stock. They were $99 when I got this one, but looks like they went up to $129 http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/FindAS...pe=04&Finish=1

[tuna quesadilla]

Felt recoil is all about how the stock fits you. M1903 bites me hard, whereas a Browning A-bolt shooting the same cartridge -- and weighing less -- doesn't.

Once we've established the stock fits you properly and your technique is correct, then you can factor in rifle weight and brakes, that kind of thing. .243 is indeed less recoil than .270, but .270 really isn't too bad as power goes... very different tools. My hunting round of choice is .270 but if I was getting into the long-range precision game, I'd go with .243.

This. Same thing with shotguns on the felt recoil vs stock fit. I used to hate shooting 12ga until I got a shotgun fitted to me by an expert. Now I can shoot clays for hours with just a little soreness.

[Bushwack44]

Damn you! I just about made up my mind on a Mossberg Patriot and you post this!

Mossberg would be $551+DROS out the door. Rem783 w/ Boyds stock (I like the example you posted) would be about $510. Can't find clarification if the Boyds stock is wood or laminate.

Thanks for making the thought process more difficult.

Felt recoil from the 243 will be less even with the plastic stock. If you don't like the plastic stock you can get a wood stock from Boyds.

This is a Remington 783 with Boyds Classic pepper laminated stock. They were $99 when I got this one, but looks like they went up to $129 http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/FindAS...pe=04&Finish=1


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Damn you! I just about made up my mind on a Mossberg Patriot and you post this!

Mossberg would be $551+DROS out the door. Rem783 w/ Boyds stock (I like the example you posted) would be about $510. Can't find clarification if the Boyds stock is wood or laminate.

Thanks for making the thought process more difficult.

Laminated wood is $129. If you want Walnut or Maple cost is higher depending on the grade.

You should try them out. The Mossberg Patriot action doesn't feel too bad, but the Remington 783 is really slick.

[ar15barrels]

would a 243 in synthetic offer less recoil than a 270 in wood?

yes.

[73Jim]

I bought a Savage Axis 2 from big 5 when they had a sale at 399 + 10% off anything in the store and Savage had a 50 mir. Added a Boyds stock for 110 and I'm 550ish in a 270 with a decent Weaver scope. Recoil is mild on a 7ish pound rifle.

[Guardian Mode]

Damn you! I just about made up my mind on a Mossberg Patriot and you post this!

Mossberg would be $551+DROS out the door. Rem783 w/ Boyds stock (I like the example you posted) would be about $510. Can't find clarification if the Boyds stock is wood or laminate.

Thanks for making the thought process more difficult.

This one is sweet!
Ive been wanting to try this one, too.
A Remy 783 in 223...or maybe even 243 in a boyds laminated.
Any decent bipod. Get a kydex cheek riser.
And top it with a primary arms 4-14 scope with their r-grid reticle.
The slightly smaller bore of a 223 or 243 mixed with the slightly fatter barrel compared to comparable rifles, means you get just that much better results when it's heating up.