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  • #16
    Apollo
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 868

    Originally posted by LynnJr
    Apollo
    Looks like 53 moa?
    That was at 50yds. My scope has 70 moa total travel, so 35 moa to bottom out the erector. Then the bullets were hitting 56" high ( times two because I'm at 50yds ) so (56x2) + 35 = 147.

    Though I suppose more accurately it would be 107.7 moa +35 so 142.7 moa if you factor in that 1 moa is actually a little bigger than an inch at 100 yards.


    Originally posted by JMP
    Apollo, why did you shoot the tape measure? Also, have you thought about getting a 243 barrel for your AR so you can more easily get to 2k.
    So last time I tried to sight in with that funky home made AR-10 riser (not the one Fenton made for my 338, just to be clear) I ran into the problem that even aiming at the bottom edge of the target my shots were going over the top.

    I could use my substensions to hold under the target but that meant dialing down to 6x to make the substensions hold 3x their marked value, which causes problems of it's own. As I've experienced elsewhere holding over or under a target just makes everything harder than it has to be.

    The target hangers at the range are about 6' tall, the targets are 36" tall. So I took one of those cheap mini tape measures that are either 49 cents or 99 cents (I forget, but it was cheap) and stapled it to the target so that it extended from the top of the hanger down to the ground below.

    This allowed me to have a point of aim below the target that was consistent. By aiming at the tip of the tape measure I could see exactly how high the bullets were hitting without having to stop and measure.

    It also made taking pictures for my notes much easier. The picture is cropped but I also took some other shots with different hold overs etc.

    So to answer your question, I shot the tape measure because it made my life easier.

    I think after tomorrow I'm probably not going to be shooting the AR-10 at 2k very often. I'm picking up my 338 LM in approximately two weeks which is much better suited to long distance shooting. If tomorrow goes well I might still use the 308 occasionally at 2k, but it's effectively a backup piece now.

    To answer your second question, I definitely looked into an upper in .243 but it would make more sense to me to just build a bolt action for a few hundred bucks more. I read up on it and weird issues were popping up for people who tried to make it work in the AR-10 platform. It was enough trouble getting 308 to perform. I'll pass on that headache.

    JMP, you will be happy to know though that I'm actively trying to get a SWFA HD 5-20 scope. I'm attempting to work a trade with someone right now since the upgrade to 338 LM ate my cash.

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    Last edited by Apollo; 03-27-2016, 12:16 AM.
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    • #17
      LynnJr
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7958

      Apollo
      What your scope base has in it doesn't get added to your calculation. It just lets you use more of your scopes internal range.
      If you cranked the scope to its maximum elevation at 50 yards and got 55 MOA that is 110 MOA at 100 yards and beyond.
      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
      Southwest Regional Director
      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
      www.unlimitedrange.org
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      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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      • #18
        Apollo
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 868

        Yes. I understand that.

        Once the elevation was bottomed out on my scope I was still 4' 8" high at 50yds. So 107.7 MOA high to put it in an angular measurement.

        I was just talking about the slope of the riser itself.


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        Last edited by Apollo; 03-27-2016, 5:53 AM.
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