truing an action. cost?

[musketjon]

30-06 makes more ballistic sense than a 308 for long-range work. Get some RE22 and 190 or 175 grain Sierras and enjoy it.

This^^^^^^exactly.
Jon

[milotrain]

I like the .30-06 too.

[JMP]

I'm taking my 700 long action down to my local gunsmith to be trued. What should I expect to pay? No trigger work or bedding is being done.

Not replacing the barrel at this time

Thanks for the responses, not going to true the action. I'm doing a long range 30.06 (yes I know 06 is not as good a dasher etc), I have a HS precision stock with bottom metal, Harris bipod, and night force 20 moa rail, Burris rings and nice sling. Still need a barrel (already talked to Randal and he has me set on which to get) and glass, and detachable mag bottom metal. Have a surefire brake too. But it's taking some time to get the funds together for those last few pieces and I still want to use the rifle now so I'm having the barrel put back on so I can get some use out of it while I save.

So, really, it sounds like you are going to do nothing except assemble some parts until you get money for a new barrel and bolt?

I think that's actually a good idea so you can just get out there and shoot. That is the most important thing. For your rifle, the most important part is the barrel. You will need to get a new bolt when truing so keep in mind that a new bolt is $200+ so that is in addition to the gunsmith fee. The main problem I have with the bulk rifles' action is that the bolt often gets sticky and hard to operate, but the truing does less for accuracy than to have a new quality barrel screwed on nice and fit.

[Shrubmaster]

I like the .30-06 too.

I love the versatility of the round and the fact that you can find factory stuff everywhere. When ammo is scarce, you can still find it on store shelves, I've even found it at gas stations up in the mountains.

This rifle should go well with the yugo m76 in 30.06 I'm ordering in a few weeks.

[Flouncer]

???? Not Again

So, really, it sounds like you are going to do nothing except assemble some parts until you get money for a new barrel and bolt?

I think that's actually a good idea so you can just get out there and shoot. That is the most important thing. For your rifle, the most important part is the barrel. You will need to get a new bolt when truing so keep in mind that a new bolt is $200+ so that is in addition to the gunsmith fee. The main problem I have with the bulk rifles' action is that the bolt often gets sticky and hard to operate, but the truing does less for accuracy than to have a new quality barrel screwed on nice and fit.

No, no and no. I have to say no no and no. Again, I don't know where you get this. Seriously.

One question to you.

Why ???

[LynnJr]

Flouncer I think what JMP is saying is when people true up a Remington 700 action it is quite common to bore the raceway.
If you bore the raceway to 0.705 which is a common size most opt for a Pacific Tool and Gage bolt rather than bushing or double bushing your original bolt.
The added advantage of the PT&G bolt is you can get it with any boltface you can get a coned bolt you can get a 0.062 firing pin you can get a tighter fitting shroud you can get a Sako or M16 extractor and you can get several different types of fluting for a very nominal fee.
It is actually cheaper than doing all the separate steps. Oh yeah you can get any bolt handle you want as well.
Edit: The bolt in the picture is fluted has the tighter Lawton bolt shroud the M16 extractor the 0.062 firing pin a Lapua 0.590 boltface a lightweight firing pin and a straight handle so it drops right into a target stock.

[JMP]

No, no and no. I have to say no no and no. Again, I don't know where you get this. Seriously.

One question to you.

Why ???

The point of truing the action is to have your action aligned and fit. You can get your bolt tuned for smoother operation, but the factory bolt will not be a fit as it runs undersized to ensure compatibility with the receivers. You cannot increase the bolt's diameter to fit so the most common method for truing is to get an over-sized bolt and fit the bolt to the receiver.

Flouncer I think what JMP is saying is when people true up a Remington 700 action it is quite common to bore the raceway.
If you bore the raceway to 0.705 which is a common size most opt for a Pacific Tool and Gage bolt rather than bushing or double bushing your original bolt.
The added advantage of the PT&G bolt is you can get it with any boltface you can get a coned bolt you can get a 0.062 firing pin you can get a tighter fitting shroud you can get a Sako or M16 extractor and you can get several different types of fluting for a very nominal fee.
It is actually cheaper than doing all the separate steps. Oh yeah you can get any bolt handle you want as well.
Edit: The bolt in the picture is fluted has the tighter Lawton bolt shroud the M16 extractor the 0.062 firing pin a Lapua 0.590 boltface a lightweight firing pin and a straight handle so it drops right into a target stock.

Yes, that is correct, but as you mention, it is important to get the small firing pin and hole to accomodate many small primer cases. You do not need to get a new bolt for this, rather, you can get the firing pin hole bushed. I know that gre-tan in Lynn's link above offers the service of bushing and fitting the firing pin and hole.

[Shrubmaster]

And this is why I ask... a fitted bolt wasn't even on my radar. Sounds like it's a worthy investment.

[ar15barrels]

Not replacing the barrel at this time

Truing won't get you ANY gain without putting on a new barrel.

A complete truing job will include opening up the receiver bore to 0.705", dialing the receiver in on the lathe so it's concentric to the receiver bore, re-cutting the lug seats, receiver face and threads.
Then a new bolt gets fitted to take up the slop between receiver and bolt.
Then a new barrel gets fitted with a new recoil lug.
Figure $1000 for the bolt, barrel, truing and barrel installation.









Done right, a gun should shoot like this:

[ar15barrels]

No, no and no. I have to say no no and no. Again, I don't know where you get this. Seriously.

One question to you.

Why ???

When you true a receiver, you normally OPEN UP the receiver bore to get it straight and round.
This makes the original bolt EVEN SLOPPIER in the receiver than it already was.
The whole point of truing is to get everything centered and squared.
If your bolt has 0.010" of slop in the receiver, how do you keep it in the middle?

The answer is that you get a bolt that is 0.008" larger in diameter so there is only 0.002" of clearance between bolt and reciever.
Another way to do it is to put sleeves on the old bolt.
It costs less to REPLACE a 700 bolt than to REBUILD one.

[Shrubmaster]

Man I wish you were closer

[ar15barrels]

Man I wish you were closer

People drive down to me from the San Francisco bay area all the time.

[Shrubmaster]

People drive down to me from the San Francisco bay area all the time.

I'm in Fresno, my schedule makes it pretty difficult to go anywhere though

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[ar15barrels]

when people true up a Remington 700 action it is quite common to bore the raceway.
If you bore the raceway to 0.705 which is a common size most opt for a Pacific Tool and Gage bolt rather than bushing or double bushing your original bolt.
The added advantage of the PT&G bolt is you can get it with any boltface you can get a coned bolt you can get a 0.062 firing pin you can get a tighter fitting shroud you can get a Sako or M16 extractor and you can get several different types of fluting for a very nominal fee.
It is actually cheaper than doing all the separate steps. Oh yeah you can get any bolt handle you want as well.
Edit: The bolt in the picture is fluted has the tighter Lawton bolt shroud the M16 extractor the 0.062 firing pin a Lapua 0.590 boltface a lightweight firing pin and a straight handle so it drops right into a target stock.

I built a gun you might like today.
Stainless 700 long action that I trued.
PTG one piece bolt.
Proof research M24 contour 28" long carbon wrapped barrel with a big 4 port brake.
Chambered in 338 Ultra mag.
BDL type bottom metal with a Wyatt's extended length Ultramag box in a B&C stock.
It's a long range capable walking-around rifle.

[ar15barrels]

I'm in Fresno

That's only 3 hours away.
You just need to gather up all the parts and schedule yourself a day off.
I do all the metal work in a day so you go that same home with a rifle that you can shoot the next day.