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  • Shrubmaster
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1359

    truing an action. cost?

    I'm taking my 700 long action down to my local gunsmith to be trued. What should I expect to pay? No trigger work or bedding is being done.
    WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
    Thanks
  • #2
    milotrain
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 4301

    Depends on what the smith is doing, all truing jobs are not the same and all actions don't need the same amount of truing. What do you feel needs done?
    weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
    frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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    • #3
      Shrubmaster
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1359

      To be honest, I'm a novice when it comes to building a bolt gun, he said he would make a cut on the recoil lug and the action face
      WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
      Thanks

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      • #4
        milotrain
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 4301

        Is he chambering up a new barrel for you?
        weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
        frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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          • #6
            JMP
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Feb 2012
            • 17056

            Probably $200-$400 depending on how much you get. More if you are also replacing the barrel.

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            • #7
              Shrubmaster
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 1359

              Not replacing the barrel at this time
              WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
              Thanks

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              • #8
                2shotjoe
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                • Feb 2011
                • 26542

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                • #9
                  boomer135
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 580

                  How about a little more information: remington 700 what model, stock, trigger etc?

                  Also what are your expectations of this rifle? Depending on the above you may be better suited to take your $ and replace your current stock.

                  Originally posted by Shrubmaster
                  I'm taking my 700 long action down to my local gunsmith to be trued. What should I expect to pay? No trigger work or bedding is being done.

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                  • #10
                    LynnJr
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7957



                    If your not replacing the barrel don't do any truing at all.
                    Anybody with a lathe can cut the face but that is not what you are after.
                    You want all the work done to the centerline of the action and the action needs truing with a fixture to do that.
                    You Tube has so many horrible gunsmiths I get a stomach cramp.
                    Only watch the videos by Greg Tannel Stan Ware Kevin Cram and "Stick" Stark and you will be okay.
                    Stay away from nutnfancy and all the rest.
                    Last edited by LynnJr; 03-15-2016, 4:34 PM.
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                    • #11
                      milotrain
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 4301

                      If you are not replacing the barrel then don't have the action trued. You will do more harm than good and you won't see an accuracy gain. Also I wouldn't trust a gunsmith that takes your money to true an action without replacing the barrel. Not trying to flame you, just throwing out a warning.

                      More details:
                      Truing an action does a number of things, but in general you are attempting to tighten up the fit of the bolt to the action and ensure that the action, bolt and barrel/chamber are in alignment. This only really works if you touch each element because the bolt being in alignment and tight with the receiver but neither being in alignment with the barrel won't do you much good. Likewise if the barrel and action are aligned and the bolt is not you will also have problems. It is also commonly found that putting a quality barrel on an untrued action nets you a greater accuracy bump than truing an action and keeping the stock barrel.

                      Action truing can take many forms but the below is a basic outline of the 700:
                      • Sleeve, bump or use a larger bolt to create a tight fitting between the bolt and the action raceway.
                      • Bush the firing pin hole on the bolt to support higher pressures and more consistent ignition (requires a new firing pin).
                      • Cut the bolt lugs on a lathe to ensure they are perpendicular to the bolt body.
                      • Ream the action raceway to ensure consistent diameter and fit enlarged, sleeved, or bumped bolt.
                      • Cut the action lugs on a lathe to ensure that they are perpendicular to the raceway.
                      • Cut the action face on a lathe to ensure that it is perpendicular to the raceway.
                      • Cut the action's barrel threads on a lathe to ensure that they are perpendicular to the raceway.

                      You can true an action without using an enlarged, sleeved or bumped bolt but it doesn't make much sense to do only some of the above. Do it all or don't do it.
                      weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                      frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                      • #12
                        baih777
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 5680

                        Originally posted by Shrubmaster
                        To be honest, I'm a novice when it comes to building a bolt gun, he said he would make a cut on the recoil lug and the action face
                        You need to do more research on truing a bolt action rifle. If your in the los Angeles area there is a gunsmith here that will direct you more in the right direction.
                        Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
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                        • #13
                          LynnJr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7957

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                          • #14
                            Shrubmaster
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1359

                            Thanks for the responses, not going to true the action. I'm doing a long range 30.06 (yes I know 06 is not as good a dasher etc), I have a HS precision stock with bottom metal, Harris bipod, and night force 20 moa rail, Burris rings and nice sling. Still need a barrel (already talked to Randal and he has me set on which to get) and glass, and detachable mag bottom metal. Have a surefire brake too. But it's taking some time to get the funds together for those last few pieces and I still want to use the rifle now so I'm having the barrel put back on so I can get some use out of it while I save.
                            WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
                            Thanks

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                            • #15
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7957

                              30-06 makes more ballistic sense than a 308 for long-range work. Get some RE22 and 190 or 175 grain Sierras and enjoy it.
                              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                              Southwest Regional Director
                              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                              www.unlimitedrange.org
                              Not a commercial business.
                              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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