New AICS style PMAGs

[bsumoba]

Got 3 of these on pre-order at Brownells. Almost 1/2 the cost of the AICS mags and according to multiple youtube videos on the 5 round version, which is already out, the 10 round should be promising. Should work really well in the Ruger RPR, all AICS chassis and any DBM that takes AICS mags.

It will accomodate a loaded round OAL of 2.86", which means now you can seat the bullets out a little further. 140gr hybrids for the 6.5 creedmoor guys will love this, or even the 308 guys to maximize velocities out of their 175s or to run the bigger 185-200gr bullets in their 308. This might even put the 6.5x55 swede into the mix (not sure about this though).

[evorider]

what is the cost

[FourT6and2]

what is the cost

what is the google

[bsumoba]

I think $37 buck? $33 for the 5 rounders.

[ar15barrels]

Steel AICS mags will usually accommodate 2.92" with the spacers removed.

[JMP]

I have been waiting on these so I can try to block them for 6BR type cases as to not confuse my magazines. Otherwise, I think the $70-80 for a proper AICS short action magazine is a significantly better value than a cheap plastic PMag. AI accessories tend to be a very good deal since they get a fair economy of scale. If you look at the magazine prices for all the other high-end rifle companies, it is cheap. The AI magazines are reasons to get an AI bottom metal or an AI rifle.

[45R]

Steel AICS mags will usually accommodate 2.92" with the spacers removed.

Booooooo....my 308 loads for 1k are 2.930 COAL.

[russ69]

I'm old school I guess, how many mags do you really need for a bolt action rifle?

[Tere_Hanges]

Damn thats expensive, they cant cost much more to make than LR/SR Pmags. Theyre just ripping people off cause there is no other option to the AICS mags.

[ar15barrels]

Damn thats expensive, they cant cost much more to make than LR/SR Pmags. Theyre just ripping people off cause there is no other option to the AICS mags.

Economy of scale.
There are probably 100x more LR/SR mags made and sold per year than there are AICS mags.
AI mags are also way thicker metal than LR/SR mags and they are much better made as far as the quality of forming, welding, and finishing.

[Tere_Hanges]

Economy of scale.
There are probably 100x more LR/SR mags made and sold per year than there are AICS mags.
AI mags are also way thicker metal than LR/SR mags and they are much better made as far as the quality of forming, welding, and finishing.

I thought the MAGPUL AICS mags are polymer.

[ar15barrels]

I thought the MAGPUL AICS mags are polymer.

They are.
I was talking about steel mags.
Economy of scale applies to plastic mags as well.

Let's say you spend $200,000 making a set of molds to produce a specific type of magazine.
You need to cover those costs eventually by selling magazines.

Now let's say you produce and sell 100,000 magazines from the LR/SR mold per year, but only produce and sell 10,000 magazines from the AICS mold.
Your "tooling costs" are MUCH different than your "production costs" for each mag, but you need to account for BOTH tooling and production costs in the sale price of the product.
It would be completely normal to need to sell the lower quantity mags for more money to recoup your tooling costs in a reasonable time.

[Tere_Hanges]

I understand economies of scale, thank you. I was taking that into account already. Still seems high for a plastic mag that probably doesnt cost them more than any of their other mags. Its just marketing BS, they are trying to gouge as much as they can because there are no competitors.

[jdben92883]

LOL. Randall just wasted 90 seconds of his life explaining the need to recover production AND tooling costs and you still only focus on production. Well done.

I understand economies of scale, thank you. I was taking that into account already. Still seems high for a plastic mag that probably doesnt cost them more than any of their other mags. Its just marketing BS, they are trying to gouge as much as they can because there are no competitors.

[Tere_Hanges]

LOL. Randall just wasted 90 seconds of his life explaining the need to recover production AND tooling costs and you still only focus on production. Well done.

Because your missing what Im saying. After taking into account economies of scale, tooling, production, overhead, hookers for the big man, etc.. The total is X amount to produce the mag, period. I'm guessing X is a lot closer to the prices of their other mags, yet the pricing seems way off because they can mark it up a lot more closer to a real AICS mag since there are no comparative competitors. So they are gouging.

I completely understand what Randall is saying. It is basic economics, which we have all taken, right? I have. I just think there is a little marketing BS going on here. We are only guessing anyway.

No need to redicule me for adding another perspective.