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  • stilly
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2009
    • 10685

    I just saw an add for an ARF 50 BMG upper...

    I thought that jackass number xx banned 50 BMG from being sold in CA, but that was a whole firearm I thought.

    Now I see a bolt action .50 BMG and priced around $1200-$1500 I think.

    There is no ffl requirement for that, so is that allowed to be brought into CA or is that a nono still?

    I was not sure where to look and whether or not the rules apply to it since it is an upper receiver only.

    Any links or information would benefit those of us looking at getting these.

    Was it JUST the .50 BMG that was banned or could I get one chambered in .510 DTC and put it on a lower and have no issues (provided that I follow the same basic semi or bolt rifle rules of course.)
    Last edited by stilly; 10-09-2015, 7:00 PM.
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  • #2
    Divernhunter
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 8753

    No on 50bmg and yes on 50DTC
    A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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    • #3
      stilly
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2009
      • 10685

      Originally posted by Divernhunter
      No on 50bmg and yes on 50DTC
      Okay that was what I thought. I just thought I could get the .50 bmg as a plinker but then the more I talked and looked around the more I see that that SPECIFIC caliber was banned by the gov asshat.

      And although it might be cool to have a 50 bmg plinker, I know you get what you pay for so maybe a better rifle would be ideal for a couple k more...

      Thank you sir.
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      • #4
        MrPlink
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        • Mar 2010
        • 12532

        50bmg RIFLES have been banned.

        So hypothetically if you made a non-shoulder fired firearm, it's gtg
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        everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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        • #5
          TKM
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          • #6
            ke6guj
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            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by MrPlink
            50bmg RIFLES have been banned.

            So hypothetically if you made a non-shoulder fired firearm, it's gtg
            If you have a RAW AR15, you can legally swap the upper and use a .50BMG upper on it.
            Jack



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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57003

              Originally posted by stilly
              Was it JUST the .50 BMG that was banned or could I get one chambered in .510 DTC and put it on a lower and have no issues (provided that I follow the same basic semi or bolt rifle rules of course.)
              No problem to have a 50 BMG upper as long as you NEVER assemble it to a non-registered-aw-lower in CA.
              If you happen to have a registered AW lower, you can certainly put a 50bmg upper on it.
              There is no regulation of 50DTC uppers whatsoever.
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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57003

                Originally posted by MrPlink
                50bmg RIFLES have been banned.

                So hypothetically if you made a non-shoulder fired firearm, it's gtg
                50BMG handguns are fine.
                Randall Rausch

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                • #9
                  ke6guj
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  50BMG handguns are fine.
                  please don't, unless you want the entire 50BMG community pissed.

                  if 50BMG handguns become available, BATF could then rule that all 50BMG ammo is handgun ammo and then the handgun AP ammo rules apply, so no surplus .50BMG ammo (steel core) and most monolithic solids gets caught up as well.


                  and there is the whole .510" handgun DD possibility as well.
                  Jack



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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44093

                    Originally posted by stilly
                    Okay that was what I thought. I just thought I could get the .50 bmg as a plinker but then the more I talked and looked around the more I see that that SPECIFIC caliber was banned by the gov asshat.

                    And although it might be cool to have a 50 bmg plinker, I know you get what you pay for so maybe a better rifle would be ideal for a couple k more...

                    Thank you sir.
                    I purchased a 50BMG upper about two years ago from the classifieds here and paid about $1500 for it. Due to the short barrel, I did buy it for a plinker but, my long term plans are to rebarrel it and use it as a "light gun" in FCSA matches. Some 50BMG uppers can shoot as well as a +10K custom built BR gun and many shoot better than the over priced M82s. So, when it comes to 50s, you have to know what you're looking at instead of just thinking that paying more makes it "better" in any way.
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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57003

                      Originally posted by ke6guj
                      please don't, unless you want the entire 50BMG community pissed.
                      This is not a new idea.







                      Imposing Hand Cannon Anti-Materiel .50 BMG RK99 Pistol Offered herein and just acquired along with a collection best described as Firearms Curiosa is this AWE
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                      • #12
                        mrkubota
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1372

                        Originally posted by stilly
                        Okay that was what I thought. I just thought I could get the .50 bmg as a plinker but then the more I talked and looked around the more I see that that SPECIFIC caliber was banned by the gov asshat.

                        And although it might be cool to have a 50 bmg plinker, I know you get what you pay for so maybe a better rifle would be ideal for a couple k more...

                        Thank you sir.
                        Here's a nice Ferret50 in .50DTC (.510DTC) for sale right now....

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                        • #13
                          stilly
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 10685

                          I am not in the market right now but I am in the planning stages. I do a LOT of planning. It keeps me informed of new things so that when I can make a move I am ready to go and up to speed usually.

                          I like the ideas of the Ferret50, but I am not thrilled about everything being manual. I mean, pull a pin out to change each leg on the bipod, pull another pin out to adjust each height on each leg seperately.

                          That is a nice looking rifle, but it also looks rather heavy and clunky. Maybe I am wrong. Not that I plan to run across the desert with one strapped to my back, but now I gotta make sure that I buy a vehicle that can transport it properly (not sticking part way out of the window or with a bungeed down trunk...

                          Yeah 50 bmg handgun... That could be interesting, but I dunno just yet.
                          7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                          Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                          And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                          • #14
                            Galt
                            Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 155

                            With a 50 caliber rifle, big and clunky is desirable so the recoil does not detach a retina. There's a reason the rifles weigh 40lbs and have big muzzle breaks on them.

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                            • #15
                              TKM
                              Onward through the fog!
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 10657

                              Oddly enough, with a fifty the longer the barrel the more recoil. More complete powder burn.

                              You can stand up and shoot an 18 inch carbine from the shoulder all day long and enjoy a fireball the size of an airstream trailer.
                              It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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