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  • #16
    JMP
    Internet Warrior
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2012
    • 17056

    Originally posted by FCOD
    Just started DROS today on a Remington 5R .308. I saw this at Turners and haven't seen much on this particular model, so I thought I'd scoop it up before it disappeared since I've only seen it on their shelf once before. Most of you have seen the 5R with the black/green stock, stainless barrel and jeweled bolt; however, this one has some considerable differences.

    -FDE/ black patterned stock - Feels like an H&S stock, or similar design
    -fluted heavy barrel with threaded muzzle and thread protector
    -black finish instead of stainless
    The reason the 5r Remington may be worth it over a base model R700 (ONLY IN 308) is that it comes with a barrel that's higher in quality than the others along with a stock that isn't complete rubbish.

    Still, in the 5r, they have the throat WAY too long, but it still seems to shoot quite well with SMKs. Those are hard bullets to mess up.

    On your points:
    1. I'd assume that the stock is the same, just a different color.
    2. I believe the barrel is the same, just fluted. Fluting to me is a detriment rather than an advantage as it weakens a barrel of the same contour. However, in practice, it's mostly just cosmetic. The threaded end just saves you a few bucks since you don't need a gunsmith to thread the end for you to put on a brake. For me, I think having a brake is something you'd definitely want on this rifle to spot your hits as the 5r is a bit light otherwise. With pre-threading, you would buy a clamp on brake. Unfortunately, the clamp on or shimmed brakes tend to be quite expensive if you buy one on your own rather than having one that's designed to being machined to fit. You will need to look at your thread size and pitch to see what available brakes you can get. With a .308, it is probably 5/8-24, so there will be a pretty wide selection of brakes you can get. You are probably best off with an after market brake, DIY brake, with APA or Armalite with the tuning screw.
    3. Do you mean the receiver is finished or the barrel? If it is the barrel, it's just paint. For the receiver and bolt, the finished depends on whether it is black oxide or parkerized. The parkerized finish provides for a more smooth action. The black oxide is just to try to protect against rust and it isn't of any real benefit unless you simply wanted a black action.

    Originally posted by FCOD
    I have limited knowledge of long range optics.

    Open to some recommendations.
    My recommendation to start out with is getting the Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PMII with P4 Fine reticle. This scope seems to work universally well for pretty much everyone. While Schmidt & Bender is on the high side of pricing, you are guaranteed of getting a good product that will not need replacement. It's pretty much the gold standard for general shooting. The only way you will do better is to pay up for a Hensoldt, which is not appropriate and completely unnecessary for a 308.

    My second recommendation would be a Tangent Theta 5-25x56.

    For a more budget scope, have a serious look at the Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27x56 or the Kahles K624s. Also, the new Nightforce F1 looks like a good contender for a middle market scope. All those scopes will last you a lifetime.

    If you are into BR shooting and want 1/8 MOA clicks, then Nightforce or March is what you want to look at. The problem is that you want to make sure they have enough elevation to get you where you need. 18 Mils or 65 MOA is about the minimum required for a 308 and the BR scopes with tiny adjustment increments tend to have erector systems that do not allow for extremely large elevation adjustments; also they are in second focal plan, which is okay since you are shooting known distances. It all boils down to preference. On the flipside, you don't need much more than 18 Mils/65 MOA in a 308 because it is a cartridge that when it dies, it dies quickly.

    Of course, for just 308, an entry level scope like the Vortex PST 6-24 FFP is just fine for a 308 as it's enough to get the 308 case as far as you can push it. If you want a good entry level, look at Vortex PST 6-24 FFP, Bushnell Elite Tactical 3.5-21, Sightron, Burris, and a few others. These will all work perfectly well with that gun. Mainly, you want to avoid the ridiculous made in China scopes that won't even hold up to the recoil of a .308.

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    • #17
      FCOD
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2008
      • 3755

      Wow... You sir, are a wealth of information. Did a little more research and the barrel is the same stainless barrel as the regular 5-R, but fluted and threaded. It's listed as having a black cerakote finish over the steel. The stock is an H&S precision stock. It's no McMillan, but it's nicer than the regular 700 stock. I definitely bought this knowing very little about the model, but I'm not feeling any regrets.

      Just need to read more up on brakes and take what you said into consideration. I was initially looking at the AAC brake, but have some more homework to do.

      Still browsing scopes, but to get me started, I might stick with a Viper. Good reviews and good quality glass.

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      • #18
        CK_32
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2010
        • 14369

        SWFA/Vortex/Buchnell

        Best names under $1,000 at the moment IMO.
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        • #19
          5.56Geo
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1888

          You my friend just bought one of the BEST that Remington has to offer! I have seen and held one of those and they are well built. The only thing I would upgrade is the trigger.
          Live free or die trying!

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          • #20
            FCOD
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2008
            • 3755

            The trigger did leave a little to be desired. In due time though...

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            • #21
              JMP
              Internet Warrior
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2012
              • 17056

              Yes, the 5r is a perfect rifle to start out on as it doesn't need a ton of modifications to shoot well, but you will want to replace the trigger. I think the 5r is a good idea to start with. Then, once you have worn out the 308 barrel, you will have a very good idea of where you want to go from there. 308 barrels last over 5,000 rounds, so you can shoot the crap out of them and get in a lot of trigger time that will suit you well. Your perspective will be much different after you have burnt out the barrel.

              A PST will be just fine for a 308 scope as it has just enough elevation to get you to the maximum range for a 308. I've had PSTs (still have one) and it's a good all around scope as it has many features. It is a great scope to learn on since it has a lot of features, eventually you may need more scope as you'll find the glass quality and elevation range are crapping out at about 1km. But, it'll be just fine for your first 308 barrel.

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              • #22
                JMP
                Internet Warrior
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Feb 2012
                • 17056

                For the least amount of money, you will want to replace the trigger with either a Timney or a Jewell. For tactical type shooting, the Timney is a better fit. For a very lightweight break in benchrest type shooting, the Jewell will be preferable. Jewells are nicer than Timneys and are priced accordingly, but they are more susceptible to the elements than the Timney. I don't like either, but there is no sense spending $400+ getting a fancy specialized trigger until you figure out what your needs are. Don't even bother trying to tune the Remington trigger it comes with. It isn't easy to tune and keep safe. 3lbs is about the best you'll ever do with one of those triggers, and even that is pushing it.

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                • #23
                  Spyder
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 16800

                  Go with the ffp Vortex PST!

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                  • #24
                    Maltese Falcon
                    Ordo Militaris Templi
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6618

                    Originally posted by FCOD
                    The trigger did leave a little to be desired. In due time though...
                    If you are going with bench shooting, go with a Timney Calvin Elite. I have mine set at 8 oz pull, really forces your technique and form to be "standardized".

                    Good luck!

                    .

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                    • #25
                      russ69
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9348

                      Originally posted by JMP
                      The reason the 5r Remington may be worth it over a base model R700 (ONLY IN 308) is that it comes with a barrel that's higher in quality than the others ...
                      They are rejected mil-spec barrels. Not sure if that means it's higher quality. I own one anyway.
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                      • #26
                        5.56Geo
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1888

                        Originally posted by russ69
                        They are rejected mil-spec barrels. Not sure if that means it's higher quality. I own one anyway.
                        ...for my education.

                        Is this a confirmed acknowledged statement provided by Remington or is this a campfire tale that has been passed on over the years?

                        ...not try to start a crapstorm nor derail this thread, just asking??
                        Live free or die trying!

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                        • #27
                          Jarhead
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2847

                          Originally posted by 5.56Geo
                          ...for my education.

                          Is this a confirmed acknowledged statement provided by Remington or is this a campfire tale that has been passed on over the years?

                          ...not try to start a crapstorm nor derail this thread, just asking??
                          Here you go,

                          The mil-spec 5R rifles are extremely popular, let us see why…

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                          • #28
                            5.56Geo
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 1888

                            Originally posted by Jarhead
                            Thanks for the link. I learned something today.
                            Live free or die trying!

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                            • #29
                              FCOD
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3755

                              Very interesting read for sure! Thank you for posting that.

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                              • #30
                                Onlyincali
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 678

                                I have nothing to contribute but logged in just to say

                                THANK YOU JMP

                                Your replies were SUPER informative and helpful to newbs like myself. THANKS!

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