Remington 5R .308 Mil-spec

[JMP]

They are rejected mil-spec barrels. Not sure if that means it's higher quality. I own one anyway.

From all the ones I have observed, the R700 5r barrels are significantly better than the standard R700 barrels. Note that because it didn't pass a certain spec for one reason, doesn't mean it is bad. The Tikka Tacticals have an exceptional barrels for an entry level price. These are the barrels from Sako that didn't find their way onto TRG-22s. In reality, if you want a high quality barrel, for a short action cartridge, you are looking at a minimum of $600 between the barrel blank and the gunsmithing, and prices go up quickly from there.

Here you go,

http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-700-milspec-5r/

In the article the statement:

These latest batches of milspec rifles have the now standard XMarkPro trigger. We are not a huge fan of this trigger but this one did come from the factory set at a decent breaking 3.5 lbs according to our trigger scale. My biggest complaint with the introduction of the XMarkPro trigger was the moving away from the ribbed trigger shoe and the removal of the more refined trigger adjustments, now it is down to a more simple single screw for weight of pull and that is it. In reality this is probably not such a big deal to a vast majority of shooter, but somethings we just grow to prefer. We did not adjust the trigger during our tests here and the factory setting worked fairly well.

That statement is false. The "adjustment" screw in the XMP does not effectively increase or decrease break weight. In fact, I am not even sure why that screw is there, if they are talking about the screw on the trigger. Now, it is a fact that you can lighten an XMP trigger by removing the action from the stock and loosening the bonded screw at the front of the trigger. That will lighten it considerably, but the problem is that you cannot do this safely without losing proper sear engagement. Thus, I consider the XMP trigger to simply be not-adjustable.

[Jarhead]

From all the ones I have observed, the R700 5r barrels are significantly better than the standard R700 barrels. Note that because it didn't pass a certain spec for one reason, doesn't mean it is bad. The Tikka Tacticals have an exceptional barrels for an entry level price. These are the barrels from Sako that didn't find their way onto TRG-22s. In reality, if you want a high quality barrel, for a short action cartridge, you are looking at a minimum of $600 between the barrel blank and the gunsmithing, and prices go up quickly from there.

In the article the statement:

That statement is false. The "adjustment" screw in the XMP does not effectively increase or decrease break weight. In fact, I am not even sure why that screw is there, if they are talking about the screw on the trigger. Now, it is a fact that you can lighten an XMP trigger by removing the action from the stock and loosening the bonded screw at the front of the trigger. That will lighten it considerably, but the problem is that you cannot do this safely without losing proper sear engagement. Thus, I consider the XMP trigger to simply be not-adjustable.

Just information everyone makes their own decision

[milotrain]

You my friend just bought one of the BEST that Remington has to offer!

Not including the 40x

[FCOD]

Ended up buying a Vortex Viper PST FFP 4-16x50. (Thanks Spyder!) :-D

[Garandimal]

Yeah, like I really needed to find This thread...




GR

[Untamed1972]

I'd like to keep it at or below $1000. I normally wouldn't immediately lean towards leupold, but the Mark 4 scopes I have worked with have been outstanding.

I have a Mark IV on my 5R....works just dandy, and can easily shoot sub-MOA all day with off the shelf match grade ammo.

[Untamed1972]

I think that is a Lew Horton special. Nice package of features.

I find the comb on those stocks to be too low. I drilled some holes in mine and mounted a Karsten adjustable cheek rest and now when I shoot it, I feel like a king!

Add a base, rings, and glass, load up some Sierra MatchKings to compensate for the inevitable long throat, and that gun will probably show you how well you can actually shoot. Add a new trigger, and you will be happy and content. You will be congratulating yourself on your wise choices!

Yep!

[JMP]

FCOD, you made a good choice for a starter's rifle. That's the one I'd recommend. For a budget rifle, I used to like the Tikka Tactical 24", but they stopped importing those to the US and only have a 20", thus the R700 5r .308 is the only factory barrel that I'd shoot out of that comes in a gun for less than $3,500.

Sure, there are many snobs in here that will say you can do better. You always can, but you have to start somewhere. A trigger and a brake are all you need at this point. Given what you have bought and a feel for the value you seek, go with a Timney 510; it's $100 and you can't go wrong. It's easy to pop in yourself you just have to deal with those damn slave pins that I hate. Since your model is pre-threaded, find a brake that clamps on well. You have a gun that is ready to shoot without paying a gunsmith. After you shoot out the barrel, you will know whether or not you want to move up or get something fancy, custom, and expensive.

Don't skimp on the muzzle brake. Get the thread pitch and size and find the most efficient brake you can get. You don't want a cheap one with shims that can move around. If the brake moves, you shot moves. That's why the good clamp ones are actually quite expensive. Personally, if you can find one in the right threads, I'd put on a big honker 338 brake to give a little more clearance and you'll get a bit less wear so you can continue to use it. A 338 brake is a nice size to use on 308 because it gives you enough clearance to be safe, but it isn't too wide to not work. Since they usually engineer 338 brakes for larger cartridges, they will tend to be more efficient. Then, you can use that brake without issue on your next rifle. As a bonus, get one with a tuning screw if you can. That is to help fine-tune your loads if you are going for the extremely accurate and consistent load development. Now, they don't work nearly as well as a barrel tuner, but they can help to a small degree.

The one thing to also consider is the shape. Since you have a short barrel, I'd probably get a horizontal brake so it blows out the sides. The clamshells are a bit more efficient, but, it bounces the gas back at a steeper angle. The clamshell brakes are nice on longer barrels. The best brake is one where you feel or hear nothing, but it pisses off everyone else at the range. That means it is doing its job.

That's just what I'd personally do.

[Jarhead]

I went all out ......... and something about a rifle that Marines used grabbed me by the shorthairs

So I had Mike Lau build me the closest copy ............

http://www.texasbrigadearmory.com/m40a1.htm

I'm happy and she's a tack driver if I do my job

[tacticalcity]

Had one years ago. Miss it. Wonderfully accurate right out of the box. Made me look good.

[FCOD]

So here's where I'm at:
-rifle
-nightforce base
-nightforce rings
-Vortex PST FFP 4-16x50
-Harris bipod that I Romeo Foxtrot'ed off my hunting rifle.
-AAC Muzzle brake

Also bought a sweet tacticool cheek rest thingy that raises it up a little and holds bullets. ....so I can be cool in the desert.

[Jarhead]

So here's where I'm at:
-rifle
-nightforce base
-nightforce rings
-Vortex PST FFP 4-16x50
-Harris bipod that I Romeo Foxtrot'ed off my hunting rifle.

Also bought a sweet tacticool cheek rest thingy that raises it up a little and holds bullets. ....so I can be cool in the desert.

Good Luck, but beware that Precision Shooting is addicting.............more rifles, more scopes, bi-pods, better stocks, heck why not have a custom build.........lots of ammo, hope you reload, the better you get the better you want to become.

[Jarhead]

Ended up buying a Vortex Viper PST FFP 4-16x50. (Thanks Spyder!) :-D

Until you look through a Razor or even a Gen. II ............... The smaller your groups get the more you will think, wonder what a Razor will do for my groups

[russ69]

They are rejected mil-spec barrels. Not sure if that means it's higher quality. I own one anyway.

...for my education.
Is this a confirmed acknowledged statement provided by Remington or is this a campfire tale that has been passed on over the years?
...not try to start a crapstorm nor derail this thread, just asking??

I just make stuff up and post it on the internet. Actually I have no knowledge that what I said is true or not but the SniperCentral story seemed reasonable.

[Untamed1972]

They are rejected mil-spec barrels. Not sure if that means it's higher quality. I own one anyway.

I seem to remember reading something that stated that batches of barrels are "spot checked" for meeting spec. If X-number of "spot checks" in a batch fail the whole batch is rejected. So their may not actually be anything wrong at all with the specific barrel you have.

And the reasons they may be rejected may have nothing to do with quality or accuracy, which is what makes them a good value.