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  • #31
    B!ngo
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 741

    I think people are drifting off of your two choices because of your comments about the b/u hog pistol. They may just be helping you to live a little longer. I would agree that neither of them are appropriate for that task.
    But sticking to the two, I'd strongly recommend a CZ. I own a number of pistols, including 1911's and they are the last on which I would bet my life. (Attn: the following are the 1911 standard caveats). They are beautiful, have great ergo's, a great history and from the hands of a great American inventor. But they are 100 years old, carry a modest round count and just not as durable as many other service sidearms. In particular a CZ. The CZ is extremely durable, dependable, and safer to carry as well.
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    But for those critters, get a Glock 20 or a S&W .44Mag

    Originally posted by Mr Blu
    I left it wide open for a reason. That way, there could be a proper comparison. If I chose something too specific, it would have defeated the purpose. But apparently just comparing base models is already too hard for people.

    It's too hard for many to even keep it to that.

    It's like asking a child which one of 2 things to get at the toy store, when all the kid keeps asking for, is the toy made at a different shop.

    I gave parameters for a reason, but no one seems to be able to stay within them.

    No one has even asked why I chose those 2 makes/models , which CAN be important information. I chose them because of budget and because of reviews by other people who have shot them. So a lot of work is already done.

    And there is plenty of information to go on.

    1) I want a dual purpose pistol. Hunting/Personal Defense.
    2) I gave 2 different models of firearms to compare.

    Therefor, the answer should be one of the following : which one is better at what I want the firearm to do and why, or neither and why.

    1 guy did that. Everyone else just kept saying GLOCK, or some random caliber that neither pistol comes in. Then there are the "which ever shoots well in your hand" people that don't help because what if the one that does, is not only NOT one of the pistols listed, but also doesn't come in a caliber that would be helpful???
    Last edited by B!ngo; 01-03-2015, 7:31 PM.

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    • #32
      nikki#2
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2164

      Originally posted by B!ngo

      But sticking to the two, I'd strongly recommend a CZ. I own a number of pistols, including 1911's and they are the last on which I would bet my life. (Attn: the following are the 1911 standard caveats). They are beautiful, have great ergo's, a great history and from the hands of a great American inventor. But they are 100 years old, carry a modest round count and just not as durable as many other service sidearms. In particular a CZ. The CZ is extremely durable, dependable, and safer to carry as well.
      Don't own an RIA... but no reliability issues here with my 1911. Of course, quality magazines are mandatory.

      I don't know squat about hogs... but if I had an inkling one might charge me today, I'd grab my .45ACP instead of my 9mm....
      but I sure as hell wouldn't want to CCW either of them.

      .... Then again, I wouldn't have bought the CZ in 9mm and perhaps not the 1911 in .45ACP if I had the OP's requirements,
      as I am not a boar hunter.

      Last edited by nikki#2; 01-03-2015, 10:27 PM.

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      • #33
        Plunger9
        Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 276

        I'm partial to the 1911 platform as well so my vote would be the RIA. I've owned both a RIA 1911 G..I in 45 and a CZ 75, 9 mm pcr and a full size in 40. Trade or sold the CZ's but I've still have my RIA.
        History has proven time and time again that in a free democratic society the one thing that is NOT needed is the government deciding what IS needed. -Scott Treichler

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        • #34
          dave85620
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 690

          Out of those two I'd try the 1911.

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          • #35
            darkjedi351
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 940

            RIA 1911 in .45 who cares what the cz looks like when you have a boar you thought was dead get up and charge you.
            http://m14hdw.proboards.com/index.cgi

            http://www.sageebr.com/

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            • #36
              APV
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 620

              Originally posted by Mr Blu
              I left it wide open for a reason. That way, there could be a proper comparison. If I chose something too specific, it would have defeated the purpose. But apparently just comparing base models is already too hard for people.

              It's too hard for many to even keep it to that.

              It's like asking a child which one of 2 things to get at the toy store, when all the kid keeps asking for, is the toy made at a different shop.

              I gave parameters for a reason, but no one seems to be able to stay within them.

              No one has even asked why I chose those 2 makes/models , which CAN be important information. I chose them because of budget and because of reviews by other people who have shot them. So a lot of work is already done.

              And there is plenty of information to go on.

              1) I want a dual purpose pistol. Hunting/Personal Defense.
              2) I gave 2 different models of firearms to compare.

              Therefor, the answer should be one of the following : which one is better at what I want the firearm to do and why, or neither and why.

              1 guy did that. Everyone else just kept saying GLOCK, or some random caliber that neither pistol comes in. Then there are the "which ever shoots well in your hand" people that don't help because what if the one that does, is not only NOT one of the pistols listed, but also doesn't come in a caliber that would be helpful???
              Reeds have CZ75B in stock and very probably RIA 1911 (plenty of 1911s for sure). You can try them at their range and compare. They deduct rent fees from the purchase price of the gun. I just got there last week my new 75B. I found 75B very accurate with good ergonomics. I cannot say much about RIA for the lack of personal experience.
              Last edited by APV; 01-03-2015, 10:56 PM.
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              • #37
                Stripeknight
                Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 347

                Originally posted by Maddawg46
                Ruger Alaskan in .454 Casull .44 mag. If you have to have a semi-auto, then the Glock 10mm would be my choice.
                Just make sure to save one round for yourself if he gets ya! Less suffering that way. LOL!
                Fixed it for you, 44 mag is a little girl round out of that platform.

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                • #38
                  RaceDay
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1013

                  I am a big CZ fan and would highly recommend one. That said, 9mm is going to be a bit light for the B/U hunting weapon. And both will be on the heavy side for carry. I own a RIA 1911 in 9mm and it is a nice gun too. I think CZ is a nicer firearm but the RIA is good.

                  In the end, I will echo the poster above-- see if you can try them at a local range. If you can't have a test drive, since you are looking for a reasonably priced durable pistol I would say go CZ. You seldom here people complaining about CZ reliability.

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                  • #39
                    Mr Blu
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 741

                    Originally posted by daybreak
                    just because OP got pissy, i'm recommending a glock. i never recommend glocks.
                    Really???

                    Getting frustrated at people's lack of following instructions is getting pissy???
                    Originally posted by 0321jarhead
                    Accuracy is not always the rifle, its the nut behind the stock.
                    "Use the shiny toys when you have them, but never, ever forget how to do it by hand." --- SGT. David Sillick A. Co. 4-64 AR, 3ID

                    Everything is METTT-C

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                    • #40
                      Staticsouls
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 974

                      Go with the RIA! spend the extra cash you saved on ammo. I have never had any issues with mine, and it has always been dead on accurate for me.

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                      • #41
                        Mr Blu
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 741

                        Originally posted by MR_X
                        IMO this 2 things should be completely separate guns. Based on what you are asking I would do the 1911 with some Chips 10rd mags.
                        I would love to keep them separate, but there is a budget issue. Hence, the brands mentioned.

                        Otherwise, I would be getting a Springfield Operator for personal defense and a 44 Mag something for hog back-up and calling it good.
                        Originally posted by 0321jarhead
                        Accuracy is not always the rifle, its the nut behind the stock.
                        "Use the shiny toys when you have them, but never, ever forget how to do it by hand." --- SGT. David Sillick A. Co. 4-64 AR, 3ID

                        Everything is METTT-C

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                        • #42
                          Mr Blu
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 741

                          Originally posted by APV
                          Reeds have CZ75B in stock and very probably RIA 1911 (plenty of 1911s for sure). You can try them at their range and compare. They deduct rent fees from the purchase price of the gun. I just got there last week my new 75B. I found 75B very accurate with good ergonomics. I cannot say much about RIA for the lack of personal experience.
                          Huh. Last I checked, CZ's are usually a ***** to keep in stock. I will have to go have a look-see.

                          Thank you.
                          Originally posted by 0321jarhead
                          Accuracy is not always the rifle, its the nut behind the stock.
                          "Use the shiny toys when you have them, but never, ever forget how to do it by hand." --- SGT. David Sillick A. Co. 4-64 AR, 3ID

                          Everything is METTT-C

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                          • #43
                            APV
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 620

                            Originally posted by Mr Blu
                            Huh. Last I checked, CZ's are usually a ***** to keep in stock. I will have to go have a look-see.

                            Thank you.
                            Reeds was the only place where I found CZ75 and P01 available locally two weeks back when I placed an order and surprisingly their out the door price was better than on-line prices after all fees and taxes. Give them a call before going to confirm that they have items in stock.
                            Last edited by APV; 01-04-2015, 12:11 AM.
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                            • #44
                              Plunger9
                              Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 276

                              Target Masters had some CZ's in stock.
                              History has proven time and time again that in a free democratic society the one thing that is NOT needed is the government deciding what IS needed. -Scott Treichler

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                              • #45
                                Click Boom
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 6955

                                Originally posted by Mr Blu
                                I left it wide open for a reason. That way, there could be a proper comparison. If I chose something too specific, it would have defeated the purpose. But apparently just comparing base models is already too hard for people.

                                It's too hard for many to even keep it to that.

                                It's like asking a child which one of 2 things to get at the toy store, when all the kid keeps asking for, is the toy made at a different shop.

                                I gave parameters for a reason, but no one seems to be able to stay within them.

                                No one has even asked why I chose those 2 makes/models , which CAN be important information. I chose them because of budget and because of reviews by other people who have shot them. So a lot of work is already done.

                                And there is plenty of information to go on.

                                1) I want a dual purpose pistol. Hunting/Personal Defense.
                                2) I gave 2 different models of firearms to compare.

                                Therefor, the answer should be one of the following : which one is better at what I want the firearm to do and why, or neither and why.

                                1 guy did that. Everyone else just kept saying GLOCK, or some random caliber that neither pistol comes in. Then there are the "which ever shoots well in your hand" people that don't help because what if the one that does, is not only NOT one of the pistols listed, but also doesn't come in a caliber that would be helpful???
                                You ask a weird question, you get the answers you get.

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