What happens to all the dealer SSE's on Jan 1?

[faterikcartman]

can you pm me the rules

Did you ever see Fight Club? You'll find your answer there.

[_TomT_]

Ignore all the people who are "hush hush" about SSE2. SSE2 will only apply to some models, as the R&D for the needed parts will be excessive in cost. Basically, the pistols will need to come into the state as a break open or bolt action. Expect only certain models with great interchangeability, such as 1911's and Glocks. I would not expect to see SSE2 for very specific makes/models of pistols and if there is, expect the cost to be excessive.

I expect the excess inventory of off roster pistols will be sold to LEO.

In all seriousness the best candidate for SSE2/SAE would be a P320. Sig can basically make anything they want with that thing, now will they do it for the largest market in the United States? Well that remains to be seen.

[neouser]

In all seriousness the best candidate for SSE2/SAE would be a P320. Sig can basically make anything they want with that thing, now will they do it for the largest market in the United States? Well that remains to be seen.

Funny. I think the exact same thing. That platform is dying for a Thompson Contender style outfit. I can even see carbine chassis for it if Sig would really be willing to throw in the R&D. The possibilities are endless.

[babe]

there are no SSE2 rules that are published. there are people looking at the new SS-exemptions and trying to find out ways to comply with the law but be able to sell cool stuff. if you are just a consumer, you need to wait until 1/1/15 when hopefully vendors will start talking about what SSE2 options they have available for sale.

we aren't going to tell you how we are doing SSE2 right now, because that would mean that another vendor might copy our design before we are at market. by not saying anything until we are ready to sell, we might gain a slight market advantage over our competitors. yes, helping the community get cool stuff next year is important, but so is making a buck.

Good for you...hope you make some extra money. But you haven't gained a fan in me. I really appreciate vendors who educate me and share their knowledge with the firearms community so we can all have a little more freedom.

I'm sure it will all come out anyway, but personally, I think the intent of your above post, in the end, will be a bad business decision.

[ke6guj]

Good for you...hope you make some extra money. But you haven't gained a fan in me. I really appreciate vendors who educate me and share their knowledge with the firearms community so we can all have a little more freedom.

I'm sure it will all come out anyway, but personally, I think the intent of your above post, in the end, will be a bad business decision.

I'm not a vendor, I was speaking in the 3rd person there. just explaining how vendors think. I think it is foolish to expect that those vendors that are working on SSE2 solutions should share that knowledge with the community at the expense of their wallet. I'm all for bettering the community with knowledge but I understand that dealers have to make a dollar at the same time. should they expected to reveal trade secrets before they've even made a single sale.

I've talked with some people brainstorming about how they might be able to make SSE2 work , and for those in the business that are trying to "corner the market" for a limited time, I don't blab what ideas they have to others. It wouldn't be cool to come up with an idea that might make you some money and have it at every competitor on Jan 1. yes, as a consumer, that would be best for us, but you have to have both sides to have a market. I doubt anybody is filing for patents on SSE2 solutions, so just about everything invented will be copied by others, but shouldn't the inventor at least get to make a couple sales before everyone else?

I mean, we are potentially 8 days away from seeing some initial SSE2 solutions on the market, is it really that important to know about it today?

[Canadadry]

I'm not a vendor, I was speaking in the 3rd person there. just explaining how vendors think. I think it is foolish to expect that those vendors that are working on SSE2 solutions should share that knowledge with the community at the expense of their wallet. I'm all for bettering the community with knowledge but I understand that dealers have to make a dollar at the same time. should they expected to reveal trade secrets before they've even made a single sale.

I've talked with some people brainstorming about how they might be able to make SSE2 work , and for those in the business that are trying to "corner the market" for a limited time, I don't blab what ideas they have to others. It wouldn't be cool to come up with an idea that might make you some money and have it at every competitor on Jan 1. yes, as a consumer, that would be best for us, but you have to have both sides to have a market. I doubt anybody is filing for patents on SSE2 solutions, so just about everything invented will be copied by others, but shouldn't the inventor at least get to make a couple sales before everyone else?

I mean, we are potentially 8 days away from seeing some initial SSE2 solutions on the market, is it really that important to know about it today?

How long will SSE2 last before the legislature makes it illegal? I also spoke to a very popular vendor on this site. They hired an attorney that has worked with Calguns and versed in California gun laws. They ran multiple options by him for SSE2. They even talked about bringing the guns in an stamping their name on it as a manufacture. The attorney advised none of the options they presented he thinks would fly legally.

[babe]

I'm not a vendor, I was speaking in the 3rd person there. just explaining how vendors think. I think it is foolish to expect that those vendors that are working on SSE2 solutions should share that knowledge with the community at the expense of their wallet. I'm all for bettering the community with knowledge but I understand that dealers have to make a dollar at the same time. should they expected to reveal trade secrets before they've even made a single sale.

I've talked with some people brainstorming about how they might be able to make SSE2 work , and for those in the business that are trying to "corner the market" for a limited time, I don't blab what ideas they have to others. It wouldn't be cool to come up with an idea that might make you some money and have it at every competitor on Jan 1. yes, as a consumer, that would be best for us, but you have to have both sides to have a market. I doubt anybody is filing for patents on SSE2 solutions, so just about everything invented will be copied by others, but shouldn't the inventor at least get to make a couple sales before everyone else?

I mean, we are potentially 8 days away from seeing some initial SSE2 solutions on the market, is it really that important to know about it today?

It's not really knowing about it today. It's more the common cause I would like to share with the vendor I do business with. So just say the next silly loop hole is double shot exemption. So the gun needs to be rigged to take two rounds, is sold, then re-converted back into a 10 rounder.

I won't be the person out there at 00:01 on 1/1/15 in line to buy my new DSE pistol, but I want it to be available. Just like I want CCW to be available in other counties that I don't live in. We're working towards more freedom. If someone has an idea, I would appreciate if it could be kicked around in our forum. I would like the legal minds in the pro-2A world to be able to think it through and work out the bugs, so that we have something we're confident won't get us arrested.

If someone is going to hide a great loophole because they want to be the first out of the gate and think it will net them a dozen sales before the rest of the industry catches on, more power to them, but it doesn't engender much loyalty from my point of view.

[dyson]

I mean, we are potentially 8 days away from seeing some initial SSE2 solutions on the market, is it really that important to know about it today?

Unless those SSE2 vendors are actually a manufacturer named Sig Sauer, S&W, Glock, Ruger, etc....I wouldnt get too excited.

Of course if you're just looking for ar and ak pistols that a small shop can make, then you'll be fine.