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  • mansysinatra
    Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 377

    DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO: Trigger Pull & Gun Weight

    Im new and have shot a few guns, and about 200 rounds through an SD9VE.

    I've heard a lot of things about how the trigger pull is too heavy on this gun and others. It does not feel remotely difficult to pull the trigger.


    Likewise, I've heard the Hi Point C9 is a heavy gun. I've only held it. It felt comfortable and while it felt heavier to other guns, it did not feel heavy at all.


    I used to be into road bike and am very familiar with weight weenies and whatnot. I cant imagine a person with the ability to deadlift over 200 lbs would actually find a 6-12lb trigger pull heavy. Likewise, I cant imagine the same person, including the ability to bench 90lbs or more, claiming the Hi Point as heavy.

    Again, not comparing relatively. Am I all alone here?
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    BigBamBoo
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2008
    • 5210

    Sigh....if you don't know about a good trigger, crappy trigger, or great trigger....then ya just don't know.

    You will never realize a guns (or your) true potential with a heavy trigger. But then again....you being such a manly man......
    Bring hay for my horse....wine for my men....and mud for my turtle!

    What do you hear ???...... Nothing but the rain. Well grab your gun and bring in the cat.

    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
    - Sigmund Freud

    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    It makes it bigger and longer.

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    • #3
      Canadadry
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 1065

      Thing can get heavy over time. I'm 6'7 and 270 Pound. I'm in the gym almost every day. I took a shot gun training class over the summer and I was running an FN SLP Mark1 with the 22inch barrel. It's amazing how heavy 8-10 pounds can seem during a training class.

      I actually changed my workout. I now workout with less weight but more reps. I want to more closely simulate running an AR or Shot Gun and the muscles involved.

      I try to follow Pat McNamara's workout and do at least 20 reps per set. It's frigin hard even with lite weight. My workout use to be more about heavy weight and less reps for mass.

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      • #4
        RobG
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 4887

        Yes, you are alone here

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        • #5
          9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          Originally posted by mansysinatra
          Im new and have shot a few guns, and about 200 rounds through an SD9VE.

          Again, not comparing relatively. Am I all alone here?
          Yup, you are...but it isn't purely the "weight" of the trigger as the quality of it

          It takes a bit of experience with different triggers to compare them. The correct trigger management technique makes it easier too
          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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          • #6
            jumbopanda
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2006
            • 8382

            Originally posted by mansysinatra
            Im new and have shot a few guns, and about 200 rounds through an SD9VE.

            I've heard a lot of things about how the trigger pull is too heavy on this gun and others. It does not feel remotely difficult to pull the trigger.


            Likewise, I've heard the Hi Point C9 is a heavy gun. I've only held it. It felt comfortable and while it felt heavier to other guns, it did not feel heavy at all.


            I used to be into road bike and am very familiar with weight weenies and whatnot. I cant imagine a person with the ability to deadlift over 200 lbs would actually find a 6-12lb trigger pull heavy. Likewise, I cant imagine the same person, including the ability to bench 90lbs or more, claiming the Hi Point as heavy.

            Again, not comparing relatively. Am I all alone here?


            The measure of a heavy trigger isn't whether or not you are physically capable of pulling it. It's more an issue of whether or not you can pull it without letting the gun move, thus throwing your shot off target. A 6lb trigger isn't too bad, but shoot a 12lb one all day and your finger will likely start to feel fatigued, which decreases your accuracy even more.

            A person's benching ability has little to do with their finger/grip strength. Grip strength is highly conducive to good handgun marksmanship, especially in rapid fire. You'd be surprised how much grip strength varies from person to person, and it's not always apparent based on their appearance. For example, a relatively thin mountain climber might have a much stronger grip than the muscular dude at the bench rack.
            Last edited by jumbopanda; 12-18-2014, 6:36 PM.
            Mo' BBs.

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            • #7
              mabilis_matulis
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2012
              • 5121

              A heavy gun can take a toll on you.. Specially on a prolonged shooting..
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              "its hard to face the problem if the problem is your face"

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              • #8
                someoneeasy
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 2372

                Definitely alone, especially with the title of your thread bro

                Once you get over just pulling the trigger just to say you've been shooting and actually shoot with a purpose, you won't get it.

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                • #9
                  utc
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1093

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                  • #10
                    5ZS
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1047

                    Interesting, might put my finger on my trigger pull gauge and see where I max out.

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                    • #11
                      foxtrotuniformlima
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3442

                      Originally posted by BigBamBoo
                      Sigh....if you don't know about a good trigger, crappy trigger, or great trigger....then ya just don't know.

                      You will never realize a guns (or your) true potential with a heavy trigger. But then again....you being such a manly man......
                      Give 'em hell Stan ! Give 'em hell!
                      Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

                      Originally posted by Vin Scully
                      Don't be sad that it's over. Smile because it happened.
                      Originally posted by William James
                      I cannot allow your ignorance, however great, to take precedence over my knowledge, however small.
                      Originally posted by BigPimping
                      When you reach the plateau, there's always going to be those that try to drag you down. Just keep up the game, collect the scratch, and ignore those who seek to drag you down to their level.
                      .

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                      • #12
                        neouser
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1119

                        Originally posted by mansysinatra
                        Im new and have shot a few guns, and about 200 rounds through an SD9VE.

                        I've heard a lot of things about how the trigger pull is too heavy on this gun and others. It does not feel remotely difficult to pull the trigger.
                        The trigger isn't horrible. However, it really is a heavier trigger with a very long reset. My groupings with it weren't much worse than I do with any other pistol, then again, my groups aren't all that great to begin with. It was my bedside pistol because it was reliable and inexpensive. But I never enjoyed shooting it and stopped practicing with it, so I sold it.

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                        • #13
                          Justintoxicated
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3836

                          I think we are getting trolled for some reason.

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                          • #14
                            Oldmandan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 2721

                            Originally posted by mansysinatra
                            Im new and have shot a few guns, and about 200 rounds through an SD9VE.

                            I've heard a lot of things about how the trigger pull is too heavy on this gun and others. It does not feel remotely difficult to pull the trigger.


                            Likewise, I've heard the Hi Point C9 is a heavy gun. I've only held it. It felt comfortable and while it felt heavier to other guns, it did not feel heavy at all.


                            I used to be into road bike and am very familiar with weight weenies and whatnot. I cant imagine a person with the ability to deadlift over 200 lbs would actually find a 6-12lb trigger pull heavy. Likewise, I cant imagine the same person, including the ability to bench 90lbs or more, claiming the Hi Point as heavy.

                            Again, not comparing relatively. Am I all alone here?
                            I think you're joking... but not entirely sure?

                            Either way it's funny...
                            "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them" - Richard Henry Lee

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                            • #15
                              Str8Shoot3r
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 167

                              Funny post for sure. There's a reason why the phrase ounces equal pounds, pounds equal pain came about. But hey, if you're only going to the range and punching paper once in a while, I guess it doesn't really matter.

                              And lifting doesn't mean sheet relative to gun fighting or soldiering. That's why a lot of the military and other athletes do a crossfit workout as opposed to lifting. Being in good shape has its advantages but carrying a rifle and squeezing a trigger is not made easier by lifting. But that's funny. You lift on bro. Do you.

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