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  • beetle
    The Clip guy
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2009
    • 1677

    A California Original: The Python before the Python

    A lot of interest in Colt Pythons lately. In fact I even saw a basic (but early) six inch Colt python sell at auction this weekend for $10,000! yikes!

    But what makes the Python so desirable?



    If you ask the average shooter what makes a python so desirable many will say that the Python has unique features:
    1. Is it the vented rib on the barrel? that is indeed a unique look
    2. Is it the short action or wide spur hammer?
    3. Maybe it was the wide target grips?
    4. Or perhaps the Python's reputation as a great target gun?
    5. Maybe the gun is featured so much on "the walking dead"????

    Whatever the reason Colt's research and innovation paid of handsomely. Colt must have invested quite a lot into coming up with the Python design...... or not.

    In the 1930s the sport of competitive handgun shooting was gaining in popularity in America. This growth in the sport created a demand for better pistols. The sport was dominated by revolvers because they could be shot more accurately in single action mode than their semi-automatic counterparts. Choice was limited to either Colt or Smith & Wesson.

    While both guns had smooth actions thanks to their hand fitted parts (all parts were hand fitted at the time), their sights left a lot to be desired. In addition hammer fall was long which left a lot of time for the gun to wander off-target after the trigger was pulled.

    Gunsmiths stepped in to improve the revolvers for target shooting, but one firm rose to the top -- both in terms of their quality of work as well as overall innovation. That company was the D.W. King Gun Sight Company, based in San Francisco, California. By the mid 1930s their catalog had grown to over 88 pages of possible additions and customizations that could be performed on Colts or Smith and Wessons. It included everything from sight replacement, customized grips and hammers, to the full King target package.

    Modern Sights for Modern Arms - Super Target Pistols


    At the time a Colt Officer's Model Revolver cost around $45. For about the same price the full King package could be performed on the revolver, bringing the cost to about $90. In addition custom grips could be added for about $8 more. that works out to be about $1700 in today's dollars, or what I would consider to be a "reasonable" price for a python. funny how that works huh?

    The full King package was called the "King Super Target". The first thing that was added was a barrel vent rib! does this look familiar?



    The vent rib serves two purposes - the first is to add weight to the barrel and reduce muzzle flip. The second is to provide a platform for improved sights. One of the signature King innovations was the reflector front sight. A mirror was embedded into the rib at a 45 degree angle to reflect sunlight to the tip of the front sight. "fiber optic sight" a-la 1930s!



    At the rear of the rib were two more King innovations -- the micrometer click rear sight and the "cockeyed" hammer. Each repeatable click of the rear sight was 1" at 50 yards.

    King gunsmiths would build up the original Colt hammer with weld and then reshape it to add the spur. If the customer desired the spur could be offset either to the left or right for faster/easier cocking with the thumb.




    The Colt actions were then modified to deliver a shorter hammer fall, which meant that the entire timing of the gun needed to be adjusted.

    The final touch was to add custom grips. One of the premier grip makers of the time was the Walter Roper company. The procedure was to send in an outline of your hand where one of Roper's grip makers would custom build a grip to fit your hand. The primary grip maker for Roper was Matheis Gagne. Gagne would hand chisel a rough stock from a piece of walnut. Next he used a file to shape the wood to provide support of the revolver on the second finger and to fill the hand with an individual palm swell. Finally he used a basic v-notch cutting tool to carve out his distinctive three arched finger tip ribbon and applying the checkering. Today a pair of Roper grips in nice condition can bring up to $500!



    All of this work along with the Roper grips led to one fine competition revolver. In fact you could say it was the "King" of revolvers of that time.



    During WW2 the King company did no commercial work. They concentrated on building front sights for the M1 Carbine and barrel bushings for M1911A1s. Unfortunately Mr. King died before the war was over. After the war, Mrs. King attempted to keep the business running but unfortunately she hired an unscrupulous business manager who basically alienated the talented smiths at King. They soon left and formed the Micro Sight Company using a lot of King's products and ideas.

    In addition after WW2 both Colt and Smith & Wesson started to incorporate many of King's innovations into their production guns. Smith was the first but Colt soon followed with the micrometer click rear sight. And where did we see the full vent rib show up? That's right, Colt used it on the Python when it was launched in 1955...

    The King Gun Sight Company was responsible for many innovations. If you have a chance to examine a gun converted by King it's hard not to appreciate the detail and quality of their work. In fact, legendary local smith and pistol champion Bob Chow got his start at the D.W. King Gun Sight company in San Francisco.

    So there you have it. The original target revolver was a California creation, the "Python" before there was a Colt Python...

    D.W. King Super Target bottom, Colt Python Top
  • #2
    Pauliedad
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2012
    • 2095

    Great read. Thanks for the info.

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    • #3
      Erion929
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 4706

      Great history, great pics....thanks Beetle!

      I can't afford the Python, now where can I order that King Super Target for what, $600?
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      • #4
        customiiguy
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1666

        I want a stainless one like rick grimes

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        • #5
          CAGLS
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 3700

          Are these King revolvers as valuable as the Colt Pythons? The Python would be one of my holy grail guns but I don't think I could ever afford one. I'll have to settle on a Dan Wesson 715.

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          • #6
            Frisco3Gun
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 709

            Excellent story, beautiful steel.
            God may have made men, but Samuel Colt made them equal.

            Send me pics of your: Colt Detective Special, AMT Hardballer, pre-64 Winchester Model 70. I'm looking for them.

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            • #7
              faterikcartman
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 1404

              Originally posted by customiiguy
              I want a stainless one like rick grimes
              Is that a 6" stainless, or nickel plated?
              I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

              Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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              • #8
                faterikcartman
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 1404

                I love your firearm history lessons. But I would even more love to see your entire collection all at once.
                I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

                Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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                • #9
                  SonofWWIIDI
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 21583

                  Wow, great post!


                  If money were no object...

                  Sorry, not sorry.
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                  • #10
                    96snake
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 279

                    Excellent write up as always. Thanks!

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44094

                      Post like this make calguns what it is. Great job!
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                      • #12
                        Tank 57
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 4159

                        Might be alone on this.Would rather have that King's gun than a Python.

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                        • #13
                          AreWeFree
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 4558

                          Another wonderful write up, thank you for the excellent pictures and information!

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                          • #14
                            trashman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3824

                            Great post, great pics as always!

                            --Neill
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                            • #15
                              Tok36
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 3061

                              Great pics and history lesson. Much appreciated!
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