AR Pistol question

[Pistool Jan]

Hi folks. I'm sure this has been asked and I should search.....but I'm on my phone so I figured to just ask here.

Un CA, can one legally build an AR pistol using an 80% lower?

Thanks.

[rero360]

Some legal people say yes, some say no, I'm personally of the opinion of yes, and have done so myself. But IANAL and YMMV.

[phase1]

Yes, I'm not sure about after 12-31-2014

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=887242

[toddh]

Hi folks. I'm sure this has been asked and I should search.....

Yes..... you SHOULD search.



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[CSACANNONEER]

As long as you adhere to all state and federal laws, you can. Of course, in CA, that includes making sure it is exempt from the roster or you are exempt from the roster.

[RickD427]

Yes..... you SHOULD search.



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^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

There's some basic courtesies involved here. You're asking folks to do work for you.

Short answer, yes you can build an AR pistol from an 80% lower. But there's a bunch of hoops to jump through and the potential for a felony conviction if you miss one.

[.45 ACP]

Dude are you kidding me? There's a thread on the exact topic on the freaking FIRST page. You didn't even need to use the search button, just browse the first 5 or so post.

[Dumas1012]

Has been asked and

[Pistool Jan]

Thanks for the link Phase1.

.45ACP.......my ADD kicked in real bad before I got to post 5 or whatever. From what I see though, your own sage advice was brought seriously into question. Thanks for directing me there.

As for my question........after reading the link provided, I started getting excited about buying a single shot sled, then a bullet button, then a pistol buffer and then my 80% lower.

Then I saw the part (thanks to .45ACP's redirection)about the fact that the entire pistol, upper and all, has to be built before the end of the year.

I cannot afford that so my plan is up in smoke.

I thought that since the lower is the actual "firearm", that I could just buy the upper next year when I can afford it better.

But it makes total sense that the intent is to build a pistol and needs to be shown before the SSE exemption fades into oblivion.

Overall, complete build before 2015 or not.......the process seems dripping in risk.

[drifts1]

Some are buying complete pistol lowers. That will allow you to get the upper later.

[deephouse]

Dude are you kidding me? There's a thread on the exact topic on the freaking FIRST page. You didn't even need to use the search button, just browse the first 5 or so post.

It's happened many other times, with many other topics.

[Pistool Jan]

Some are buying complete pistol lowers. That will allow you to get the upper later.

Well I have a handgun DROS running so the 30 day wait between handgun purchases bones me there.

Truth be told I went back and forth many times on whether I wanted an AR pistol. In the end I decided it would be beeyotchin' to have and maybe with the SIG brace it kinda becomes an SBR......in a sense. But the expense was an issue since I wanted an AR-10 to compliment my 3 AR-15's. So I gave up on the pistol version and got an AR-10.

When I remembered the 80% route I got excited again. I thought it would be simpler.

[mshill]

Thanks for the link Phase1.

.45ACP.......my ADD kicked in real bad before I got to post 5 or whatever. From what I see though, your own sage advice was brought seriously into question. Thanks for directing me there.

As for my question........after reading the link provided, I started getting excited about buying a single shot sled, then a bullet button, then a pistol buffer and then my 80% lower.

Then I saw the part (thanks to .45ACP's redirection)about the fact that the entire pistol, upper and all, has to be built before the end of the year.

I cannot afford that so my plan is up in smoke.

I thought that since the lower is the actual "firearm", that I could just buy the upper next year when I can afford it better.

But it makes total sense that the intent is to build a pistol and needs to be shown before the SSE exemption fades into oblivion.

Overall, complete build before 2015 or not.......the process seems dripping in risk.

There are still SS exemptions after the first of the year, "break top" or "bolt action" non-semi auto pistols will be roster exempt.

The real question becomes what does a "bolt action"non-semi AR pistol look like.

[foxtrotuniformlima]

Can a person borrow an upper to complete the build ?

[RickD427]

There are still SS exemptions after the first of the year, "break top" or "bolt action" non-semi auto pistols will be roster exempt.

The real question becomes what does a "bolt action"non-semi AR pistol look like.

A "Bolt Action" AR could be something as simple as a conventional AR with the gas tube blocked. The weapon would fire normally, but the bolt would remain locked after firing. The bolt would be manually retracted by the charging handle and a fresh round loaded from the magazine as the bolt moves forward.

Since the weapon, in that configuration, would be a "Single Shot", no mag lock would be required, and there would be no limit on magazine capacity (however any large-capacity magazines would have to be legally possessed).