VP9 at $550 - new value equation?

[thorium]

Already posted a dealer selling at $550... The title of this thread is NOT a theoretical question.

Again the gun is new, it's price point is still bring set, and you assume every dealer gets the same wholesale price... I've provided objective evidence that this gun will likely settle in the $500s...

This thread is not to debate the "right" price point, it is about the value equation (cost vs benefit) at the $550 price point.

[Sigbird]

Only difference is night sights. Throw night sights on the Glock and it will be equal.

I think you forgot about the extra mag the LE comes with. That's the other difference.

[Nor*Cal]

Already posted a dealer selling at $550... The title of this thread is NOT a theoretical question.

Again the gun is new, it's price point is still bring set, and you assume every dealer gets the same wholesale price... I've provided objective evidence that this gun will likely settle in the $500s...

This thread is not to debate the "right" price point, it is about the value equation (cost vs benefit) at the $550 price point.

Your objective evidence is 1 dealer selling the gun for $550, the first one that has surfaced from tons of VP9 threads and posts. That is not a thorough analysis and research. Again, I think you found an anomaly.

With that said, I don't think you are too far off. I think KyGunCo and Grabagun can be used to gauge what the gun will sell for in the long term which I believe is more like $580 to $590.

And I do also think that even at that price point, if the gun proves to be reliable with time; its a superior choice to the Glock based on ergonomics alone.

[thorium]

Your objective evidence is 1 dealer selling the gun for $550, the first one that has surfaced from tons of VP9 threads and posts. That is not a thorough analysis and research. Again, I think you found an anomaly.

With that said, I don't think you are too far off. I think KyGunCo and Grabagun can be used to gauge what the gun will sell for in the long term which I believe is more like $580 to $590.

And I do also think that even at that price point, if the gun proves to be reliable with time; its a superior choice to the Glock based on ergonomics alone.

Fair and reasonable NorCal (a rarity on the interwebs).

I should admit my home defense weapons are a mossberg 590 in a shotlock and a glock 22.

I like the VP9 but I won't be switching out that glock 22 for some YEARS - reliability (quality) conclusions in a life or death situation require a large enough sample size to be proven. my sample size of 1 VP9 and ~1000 rds looks good, but I ain't chancing it when I've got a perfectly good firearm with which I'm procifient that has a (extremely) more established track record...

[Chapped Hide]

I think you forgot about the extra mag the LE comes with. That's the other difference.

Gen 4 Glocks come with 3 mags too.

[Baer1911]

not to mention, Glock mags are $22 avg
P30/VP9 mags are .. $45??

But if you guys pay a closer look at the recently changed HK prices ..

P30 is around $850 P2000 is $820ish .. seems like HK is doing a price reduction!!!

WAIT, that isnt included $200 rebate yet!!!

WTH? Whats HK doing? seems really worried!

[Chapped Hide]

I'd love to find VP9 or P30 mags for $45. Everywhere I look, they are sold out at $50 and in stock at $70

[GW]

With the VP9 now selling around $550, is this not now a superior choice to a Glock for most people (due to equal reliability but superior ergonomics)?

This is coming from someone whose first pistol (and only pistol for most of my shooting years) was a Glock 23.

At $700 the VP9 is one thing but when the price becomes essentially equal to a glock I think HK might start to take some major market share here...

Well, the window to buy a VP9 is rapidly closing. Magazines for the VP9 are crazy expensive and its still only available in one caliber.
I think that Glock has nothing to worry about.

[Powder_Keg]

With the VP9 now selling around $550, is this not now a superior choice to a Glock for most people (due to equal reliability but superior ergonomics)?

This is coming from someone whose first pistol (and only pistol for most of my shooting years) was a Glock 23.

At $700 the VP9 is one thing but when the price becomes essentially equal to a glock I think HK might start to take some major market share here...

This thread is not to debate the "right" price point, it is about the value equation (cost vs benefit) at the $550 price point.

You mentioned the VP9 and Glock are equally reliable? How do you figure lol? The VP9 is a new gun that just hit the market. The Glock is in it's 4th generation.

If/when the price of the VP9 becomes common at $550, they may take some of Glocks/M&P/XDm potential customers, but it will be a while before HK has a complete line up of striker fire pistols to compete with Glocks extensive line. They currently only have the one handgun and they are extremely late to finally produce a striker fire pistol.

As far as HK's VP9 being a better value, I think thats a matter of opinion. If you compare HK's MSRP to Glocks MSRP, Glocks are less expensive. You and I may see a better value in the HK for $50-$75 more, but many other consumers may not. Glocks are simple, people like that. Glocks striker fire pistols have a longer track record, people like that too. Glocks have a lot of aftermarket support, the VP9 does not.

The VP9's closest comparison is the PPQ. The PPQ is less expensive than the VP9. Using your logic, I could argue the PPQ is a "superior choice" to the VP9. If not, then it's at least it's close equal. The PPQ has been out for some time and I don't see people buying them over Glocks in large quantities. With that being said, 1-2 years from now, I don't think we will see VP9's replacing the Glock 19 or 17's in sales. The VP9 is a very good gun, but it's not the end all be all.

I like the fact the VP9 added some new useful features. But I think it's a bit much for you to say it's a "superior choice" to Glock. The way I see it, it's another choice for gun enthusiasts, the more choices the better.

[himurax13]

Hmm, so Nightsights and an Extra mag is worth more than $150? I would buy the cheaper one and get that crap afterwords and save $13 on taxes.

[JDay]

Well, the window to buy a VP9 is rapidly closing. Magazines for the VP9 are crazy expensive and its still only available in one caliber.
I think that Glock has nothing to worry about.

The VP40 will be out early next year.

Hmm, so Nightsights and an Extra mag is worth more than $150? I would buy the cheaper one and get that crap afterwords and save $13 on taxes.

It's cheaper to buy it with nightsights and the extra magazine.

[JDW67]

I think you forgot about the extra mag the LE comes with. That's the other difference.

Looks like you don't own a Gen 4 Glock. Gen 4 also comes with 3 mags.

[RotaryRevn]

The VP40 will be out early next year.



It's cheaper to buy it with nightsights and the extra magazine.

VP9c and VP9sk are what we need

[safety-1st]

Going buy the cheapest Gun broker add I have seen. Here is this from GA

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=453827018

$570 + CA sales tax = 615.6 + 3% CC fee = 634.06 + shipping ($35) = 669.06 + 25 DROS = 694.06.

So your looking at around $700 , which has been on par and close to what many have been paying for theirs locally in CA. Most people paid 750-800. That extra 50-100 dollars is supporting your local gun shop and helps them make a small profit. Spending that little extra is worth it in CA especially with the stupid laws and it also shows that gun shops in CA are a worthy business.

That being said, I would not sell my VP9 used for $550, ridiculous.

[JDay]

No. It's mostly going to the state in the form of tax and DROS.