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  • straykiller
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    • Feb 2010
    • 2573

    P938 range report **Problem fixed!!

    Just picked up my new sig p938 scorpion and promptly took it to the range.



    The trigger sucks to put it bluntly but not the worst I've felt, it should smooth out after 3-400 more rounds. The pistol handles great for a 9mm in such a small package. I shot a total of 100rnds. 50 federal aluminum cased first, all shot great and no problems to report. Next was 50rnds Winchester white box. The gun jammed every round with this ammo it was ridiculous. I'll be going to the range again soon to see if it's any better after being cleaned and oiled well. All shots at 7 yds I'm happy with the accuracy for a first shoot, it will only get better the more time I have to shoot it.

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    The problem has been fixed, I called sig and after a little convincing they sent me a new slide lock spring.(I have a feeling someone may have a easier experience, as the rep I got did not want to send me a spring at first and wanted me to ship the gun back to them to be fixed). I shot about 50 rounds including some +p and had absolutely no failures. If anyone if having problems where there p938/238 is locking back after every shot( even with a full mag) then look into replacing the slide lock spring it may be out of spec. Here are two photos of the quick range trip today. First photo is 20 rnds at 7 yds, next is the same target with 50 rounds down range.







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    First 50





    Second 50- wwb jam every/other round

    Last edited by straykiller; 11-02-2014, 11:43 PM.


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  • #2
    Sharp Shooter
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 1128

    I've shot almost Winchester Whitebox exclusively in my P938 SAS with no issues.

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    • #3
      faterikcartman
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      • Aug 2006
      • 1404

      I really want one of these. Just like yours actually. But Googled "Sig P938 reliability issues" and was depressed.
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      • #4
        static808
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 893

        sorry about your issues with wwb. i've shot 50 wwb thru each of my p938's, and not a single malfunction. hope this gets sorted out...

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        • #5
          1CavScout
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          • Feb 2013
          • 3234

          Originally posted by faterikcartman
          I really want one of these. Just like yours actually. But Googled "Sig P938 reliability issues" and was depressed.
          I have about 500 rounds through mine (both 115gr ball and 124 gr+P JHP) and have not had one failure. I would not carry a gun that had issues, and my P938 has been great so far.
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          • #6
            Tok36
            Veteran Member
            • May 2013
            • 3061

            Gratz on the new Sig. It looks nice! I find the p938 to be one of the most appealing Sigs around. Hopefully its a break in issue or weird ammo.

            Thanks for the range report. May it shoot well!
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            • #7
              straykiller
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              • Feb 2010
              • 2573

              I found out what the problem is, it seems the slide lock spring is too weak. Every shot causes it to move up and lock the slide, if i pull the slide to the rear it won't move fully out of the way, only when i pull it again will it drop far enough to disengage. I shot around 100 more rounds between 4 different brands of ammo, 2 fmj, 2 jhp, all red reliably no ftf/fte due to the ammo just from the slide lock lever. Whats the best way to contact Sig? It may be as easy as replacing that spring, but ill be damed if i payed 700 for a new pistol and have to buy the few$ spring, ill make them send one.

              rounds would have fed fine if the slide lock lever didn't move up



              Last edited by straykiller; 10-24-2014, 12:38 AM.


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              • #8
                deviusdragger
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                • Jul 2014
                • 311

                That's a bummer, i own the smaller sibling p238 and I love it! So small and I just used it today for my CCW training class and it ran flawlessly!

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                • #9
                  bulletblood
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 753

                  P938 range report **Problem Found, Suggestions??**(post#7)

                  Did you clean the gun before shooting? Maybe the spring is installed wrong or it popped off.
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                  • #10
                    static2126
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                    • Mar 2013
                    • 5619

                    A couple of friends have those. I love the form factor but all.my buddies have assorted issues with theirs

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                    • #11
                      SkyHawk
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                      • Sep 2012
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                      Inspect the spring and slide stop lever to be sure it is installed correctly. You may need a good mechanical drawing or photos to compare to. Re-tension (bend) the spring if possible so it is stronger in the direction it needs to be. I would still call Sig and ask for a new spring.
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                      • #12
                        punisheryayarea
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                        Did you at least apply some kind of lubrication to it before you took it to the range?
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                        • #13
                          straykiller
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                          • Feb 2010
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                          Originally posted by deviusdragger
                          That's a bummer, i own the smaller sibling p238 and I love it! So small and I just used it today for my CCW training class and it ran flawlessly!

                          The p238 is a great pistol I bought one for my girlfriend and I would be lying if I'm not a little jealous, she hasn't had one problem with hers, but I do prefer 9mm to .380 for a carry gun.

                          The first trip the gun wasn't cleaned, after the malfunctions that time I came home and gave it a good cleaning, taking care not to tug on that spring in the first place and I know if your not careful you can easily bent it out of shape and have to replace it. I'll be contacting dig for an new spring. I am a little relieved it isn't a feeing problem so far I've tested 4 different types and all are gtg, once the spring is fixed and I prove it reliable it will become my new edc gun.


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                          • #14
                            AreWeFree
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                            • Jan 2013
                            • 4558

                            Congrats, nice gun.

                            I seem to remember reading about this problem, at least I think this could be the problem. Basically the spring can be easily damaged when cleaning/reassembling.


                            Edit: Oops, you posted same thing while I was posting.
                            Last edited by AreWeFree; 10-24-2014, 1:12 AM.

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                            • #15
                              straykiller
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                              • Feb 2010
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                              Originally posted by AreWeFree
                              Congrats, nice gun.

                              I seem to remember reading about this problem, at least I think this could be the problem. Basically the spring can be easily damaged when cleaning/reassembling.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rnkMnp9jcg

                              We probably saw the same thing, that's why I knew to be careful around that area, it's possible the spring was faulty from the manufacturer as I tested it before doing a Thorough cleaning.


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