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  • CaliF1
    Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 183

    Salient Tier 1 Glocks

    Looking for opinions from owners or anyone who has spent some time shooting Salient modified glocks. I know they are expensive, and most people think that there are many better ways to spend the money. This is probably 100% true but I'm not looking for that discussion. I've also seen another thread where others haven't had much good to say about them from seeing them fail in shooting courses and such. This is more the kind of info I am looking for, but hopefully with input from members here who own or have spent some time at the range with a Salient Glock.

    What are your thoughts on these?
  • #2
    HopetonBrown
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 85

    The only reason to get one is because you just want one. Otherwise the price doesn't really match what you're getting. My friend as a Salient Tier 1 M&P. It's nice, but kinda pointless. There was a M&P Salient in a class I took this year. Guy was just an average shooter, gun didn't seem to help much.

    For a good looking gun that costs a lot less, send your Glock to Taran Butler, who was the first guy to win a USPSA championship with a Glock. For $400 you get a nice stipple, trigger and sights.

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    • #3
      Whatisthis?
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 1820

      Originally posted by HopetonBrown
      The only reason to get one is because you just want one. Otherwise the price doesn't really match what you're getting. My friend as a Salient Tier 1 M&P. It's nice, but kinda pointless. There was a M&P Salient in a class I took this year. Guy was just an average shooter, gun didn't seem to help much.

      For a good looking gun that costs a lot less, send your Glock to Taran Butler, who was the first guy to win a USPSA championship with a Glock. For $400 you get a nice stipple, trigger and sights.

      Very wise words IMO.

      Friend of mine, who is a pretty unbelievable shooter, has shot Salients quite a few times. I asked him what he thought about Salient Glocks and he shrugged and said "meh." Nothing else. I knew what that meant. The amount of money they charge is ridiculous. I then asked about the trigger and he said "meh". Lol. That was pretty much his response to the whole salient package.

      I personally think there are better options that'll cost less overall. Taran Tactical is one choice that I've heard great things about it AND the cost MUCH less. There are other options such as:

      1) Boresight Solutions frame work - fantastic work - THE BEST IMO. If you want the rougher stippling comparable to Salient, hell, do it yourself. It won't look AS pretty, but you can get pretty dang close.

      2) Learn to shoot a stock trigger. It's not hard to add a "-" connector and overtravel stop if you want to make it a little nicer. You can also do something like a Fulcrum trigger or any of the stock modified triggers offered by companies putting someones well known name on it (Travis haley for one). Hell, you could probably try 2 to 3 of these out for the same price as a Salient trigger.

      3) Go to someone else to make slide cuts, etc.

      4) Buy your own sights and put them on.

      5) Just buy a aftermarket barrel (that needs to be fitted) and have it fitted

      You can do all this TWICE over and be out almost the same amount as ONE Salient.

      And if you go the cheaper route and stipple yourself, do an inexpensive trigger mod (even just a fulcrum), and buy the sights of your choice, you are only out the cost of the trigger and sights. So MAYBE $300 TOPS.

      No, I do not have experience with a Salient Glock nor do I have any desire to. I'm sure it's nice work... but not for the price they ask.
      Last edited by Whatisthis?; 10-06-2014, 12:01 PM.

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      • #4
        Lead Waster
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2010
        • 16650

        I really suggest shooting guns stock for a long while before jumping in and modifying them.

        Stock Glocks are great. Not the best trigger, but not the worst. I'll bet that if we didn't all have 50 guns and only had a Glock, we'd shoot them much better just from sheer practice.

        But what the heck, if you have the money, then get whatever you want. For me, I can't send a $500-$600 gun I've already paid for to someone that charges, what, $2000, to make it "better", when I can just go an keep my $500 gun and buy a $2000 other gun.
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        • #5
          deadcoyote
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 4002

          I am a big glock supporter and have carried one for work for a long time, I thinks they're great. At the same time I've seen a bunch of guys pour money into glocks and you just end up with an unreliable glock. Even though some folks think these two are alike oil and water, I'd recommend you buy a decent grade 1911 for less than the salient glock and marvel at the instrument you've acquired. I always thought 1911s were junk, had only shot GI / rack grade type 1911s. Shot a loaded target match by Springfield and was amazed by how nice it was. Just bought my own loaded parkerized. Probably wont replace my glocks but its a hell of a gun.
          Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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          • #6
            Click Boom
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2013
            • 6955

            ive seen gently used salients(maybe it was new? idk, it's by definition not new once they start working on it) for about 1000 in gun shops.

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            • #7
              L84CABO
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2009
              • 8709

              Originally posted by CaliTE
              Looking for opinions from owners or anyone who has spent some time shooting Salient modified glocks. I know they are expensive, and most people think that there are many better ways to spend the money. This is probably 100% true but I'm not looking for that discussion. I've also seen another thread where others haven't had much good to say about them from seeing them fail in shooting courses and such. This is more the kind of info I am looking for, but hopefully with input from members here who own or have spent some time at the range with a Salient Glock.

              What are your thoughts on these?
              Salient makes a cool looking product for sure. But like others have said they're crazy expensive and you can have similar done for less. Maybe a lot less. So yea, if Salient just "does it" for you, then go get yourself one. Life is short man. I'm sure you work hark and deserve to treat yourself once in awhile.

              Otherwise, maybe look at the alternatives and still get a freaking awesome gun for less.

              Also, and just as a side note, if I were going to drop that kind of money at Salient, I'd probably be looking at a Benelli M2 from them. Those things do it for me more than their M&P's do. But if I really were going to drop that kind of money on a M2, I would probably go with someone else cause I think Salient is overpriced. I'm just sayin though.
              "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

              Fighter Pilot

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              • #8
                SuperSet
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2007
                • 9048

                I shot a Salient Glock and an AR, the one from Transformers 4, at a demo. Pretty fun and great conversation pieces, for sure.
                In the Salient price range, I'd opt for Zev Glocks, myself.

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                • #9
                  ruchik
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1189

                  IMO, the only way you're going to notice any performance differences (if there are any) is if you're good enough to actually take advantage of them. I look at it like this; the majority of shooters are not going to notice much difference between a Glock or M&P that's had its slide lightened, along with a lighter recoil spring. But for the pro, whose performance and skill is measured in thousandths of a second, every last possible advantage, no matter how miniscule, is worth it.

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                  • #10
                    Masterdebater
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1095

                    Id put my own trigger/sights stippling (if need be) and send the slide out for cuts and/or refinishing. Save alot of money. Buuut if it came time to resell, the salient would sell easier

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                    • #11
                      CaliF1
                      Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 183

                      Guys, I appreciate all the input. I would still like to hear from someone who has spent the money on one though. I know the discussion on Salient always comes back to the high price and better ways to spend that money. How can it not with the conversion cost at around the price of 3-4 new factory glocks.

                      But for those of you who have done that, are you happy with it? Would you do it again? Would you even bother modding a Glock again? Don't get me wrong, I value everyone's opinion, just wondering if owners of Salient modified glocks feel differently.

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                      • #12
                        chronixskm
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 386

                        Well might as well chime in here before all the anti-salient guys do. Salient Tier 1 and Tier 2 owner here.

                        I, like you OP, had my interest peaked by Salient a couple of years ago after seeing them online and shooting my buddies 2 Salient Glocks. I have always been a 1911 guy but still loved Glocks but absolutely hated the hump so I rarely shot my 17. I did my share of research, like you, and found nothing but hate. Read plenty of crap like Salients don't run, they cost way too much, all they do is malfunction in classes, etc blah blah blah.

                        Whenever I called someone out on why they were making these claims or if it was their personal gun that was having these problems it was always their friends gun or their friend saw someone in a class with a Salient and it had nothing but problems with it. No first hand experience. It wasn't until I started hitting people up that actually owned one that I started getting positive feedback.

                        There's a firearms trainer and instructor that goes by the name of drftraining on Instagram. I follow him and he spreads a lot of Salient hate, he downright despises Salient guns and usually tries to put down Salient owners. I hit him up and simply asked him why so much hate on Salient guns? His reply?



                        A week or so later he then posts his M&P that he got back from Innovative Gunfighter Solutions with a bunch of slide work.

                        So pretty much usually it comes down to cost for most people as to why they **** talk Salient guns but enough about that.

                        I sent one of my 17's in for the Tier 1 package followed by a Tier 2 w/rmr. My Tier 1 has about 2500 hard rounds through it, I've not cleaned it once. I never shoot reloads but I purposely bought some reloads to shoot through my Tier 1. In 2500 rounds I've not experienced one malfunction. I went through no sort of break in procedure. The Tier 1 package with the window cuts makes follow up shots a lot quicker, feel a considerable difference in felt recoil, not that 9mm has much recoil to begin with.

                        I just recently got my Tier 2 with RMR and immediately took it to the range to mess with the RMR. Fast forward 2 weeks me and my wife have put about 1500 rounds through it with zero malfunctions to date. I did have some problems with the RMR06 but it seemed to have been the battery.

                        In my opinion they do some of the best stippling on the market, once again that's my opinion. Love the triggerguard as well as support hand undercuts. Their slide work is perfect with no imperfections. They did a mild grip reduction on both my guns and they both feel great in the hands.

                        Now I will say this. Their guns are not for everyone, especially people that can't afford their gun or money is just an issue. Some people can shoot factory Glocks all day long, good for them. I however don't really like factory Glocks. Will they shoot? Yes? Do I need to spend $2000 on a Glock to shoot better? Nope.

                        I for one have no regrets with my purchases. Salient does amazing work and has great customer service to boot.

                        Me and my wife did some 25 yard shooting with the Tier 2 RMR and this was her test target with one obvious flinch.



                        Me and my wife love the flat faced trigger as well as the 3.5lb trigger.

                        Do you need to spend $2000 or more on your Glock to shoot better? Nope. Will spending $2000 or more on a Glock help you shoot better? Nope but it makes me and my wifes shooting experience all that more fun.

                        OP you came to the wrong forum for Salient advice, a lot of people that don't own one are going to chime in and try and advise you to spend less money and recommend cheaper shops, up to you to decide what you want to do with that advice.

                        Now after owning both the Tier 1 and Tier 2 I would go with the Tier 2. There is no noticeable difference in follow up shots between the two Tier packages.

                        Cheers.

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                        • #13
                          HopetonBrown
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 85

                          It seems a bit sad to spend all that money on a Glock only to shoot groups at an indoor range. Or as I call it, shooting circles in a phone booth.

                          The RMR'd Tier 1 would probably only be legal in Open Division, and not legal in anything IDPA.

                          But most guys buying these guns probably don't compete.

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                          • #14
                            hunterb
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3796

                            I have a buddy who is a gun NUT, owns an LGS and got a Salient Benelli m4.

                            He has been trying to sell it ever since.
                            Originally posted by johnthomas
                            ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                            • #15
                              chronixskm
                              Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 386

                              Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                              It seems a bit sad to spend all that money on a Glock only to shoot groups at an indoor range. Or as I call it, shooting circles in a phone booth.

                              The RMR'd Tier 1 would probably only be legal in Open Division, and not legal in anything IDPA.

                              But most guys buying these guns probably don't compete.
                              Sorry you feel that way.

                              What's the point of buying a car with 500hp if you can't take it to the race track? Or is there a point at all? I guess the point would be that its a free market and I could purchase whatever I want with my money whatever my intention is to do with it.

                              I'm a firearms enthusiast, some stuff may seem pointless to others but I guess that's why there's a market that caters to more than one person.

                              Not even sure why you are posting in this thread to be honest cause you are not really helping out the OP with his question. Just stating your opinions he didn't ask for. But feel free to do whatever you want.

                              I have a G34 RTS package by Taran Tactical, that make you feel any better?
                              Last edited by chronixskm; 10-06-2014, 3:24 PM.

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