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[Baer1911]

Start your Dros on Sep 21

Sep 21, VP9
Oct 21, PPQ
Nov 20, VBOB

Problem solved

[mievil]

VBOB feels like it was forged from God's hammer to fit my hand. PPQ feels like it was poured from God's plastic pot.....to fit my hand. If I had the money, I'd get the Wesson. I love my PPQ, but I really do think the 5" is unnecessary, and pretty durned ugly compared to the 4". And I am interested in the VP9, but the guys are right. There will be a shart ton on secondary next year. That is seemingly the most singularly purchased for profit weapon on the market right now. Just look at how many people are saying they bought multiples in any thread pertaining to it.

[RotaryRevn]

but I really do think the 5" is unnecessary, and pretty durned ugly compared to the 4".

+1, that 5" is one ugly beast IMO.

[dpop24]

VBOB all day, every day and twice on Sunday!

[manini]

Love my 4" PPQ/ I also think the 5" PPQ is ugly. Looks like they added an extra inch as an afterthought.

[billybob_jcv]

This is a first world problem if there ever was one...

[mievil]

Love my 4" PPQ/ I also think the 5" PPQ is ugly. Looks like they added an extra inch as an afterthought.

Exactly. 4" looks perfect. M&P pro 5 looks perfect. PPQ 5 looks like a kluge.

[Junbuster]

I say VP9....i wouldnt bank on the secondary market....if u were to buy one through ppt after 2015 expect to pay $1000+....the pistol itself is awesome in its own right and shouldnt be viewed as just something to "flip"......the ppq is equally as nice but seems like a trade off between a nice trigger (subjectively too light) and muzzle flip....the vp9 from what ive read is a very complete and well rounded pistol with no apparent weaknesses.....vbob....shhhiiiii.....its hard for me to justify spending $1600 on a 1911

[uhlan1]

Exactly. 4" looks perfect. M&P pro 5 looks perfect. PPQ 5 looks like a kluge.

Have you shot one? I find it a tad more accurate than my M1 4". I've shot the VP9, nice gun, but I like my Walthers better. Ergo's a little better, trigger better.
I think there's a little herd mentality going on with the HK.

Don't really care how pretty or cool a gun is. Can't really see it when I'm shooting it anyway, and that's what they're for, shooting.

[uhlan1]

I say VP9....i wouldnt bank on the secondary market....if u were to buy one through ppt after 2015 expect to pay $1000+....the pistol itself is awesome in its own right and shouldnt be viewed as just something to "flip"......the ppq is equally as nice but seems like a trade off between a nice trigger (subjectively too light) and muzzle flip....the vp9 from what ive read is a very complete and well rounded pistol with no apparent weaknesses.....vbob....shhhiiiii.....its hard for me to justify spending $1600 on a 1911

I dunno. I get the sense here that many are buying VP9's to flip after January and people are buying Walther's to shoot. I think PPQ's will be in higher demand and the secondary market flooded with VP9's and Glock Gen 4's.
I'm a pessimist, but I also think there will be a ruling on Pena in the next 6 months and I think there are fair odds the entire Roster is going to get its butt kicked to the curb and SSE flippers are going to be left holding an empty bag.

[Junbuster]

I dunno. I get the sense here that many are buying VP9's to flip after January and people are buying Walther's to shoot. I think PPQ's will be in higher demand and the secondary market flooded with VP9's and Glock Gen 4's.
I'm a pessimist, but I also think there will be a ruling on Pena in the next 6 months and I think there are fair odds the entire Roster is going to get its butt kicked to the curb and SSE flippers are going to be left holding an empty bag.

Man i hope so......that way we can get vp9s from the flippers at less than street price like what happened to ar15s after the "panic" haha

[RT13]

Reviews on the VP9 have been mixed. It's a great gun but some are calling it the striker fired economical version of the P30. It's nice but not as refined as the P30. On the other hand, the PPQ has received very favorable remarks. I personally prefer Hk over Walther, but between the two, I'd probably go with the PPQ.

[optimus-primer]

Walther has been making firearms since 1886.

http://www.waltherarms.com/about-walther/

Get the PPQ 5"

Spitting hairs here but according to the link posted, the corner stone was laid in 1886, not the first gun.

[phantomx48]

VP9 is for people who already own a Walther PPQ . . .for those times when having the second best trigger is a must. But seriously, you can't go wrong with either one, especially after you put a few hundred rounds through each. The only time a difference can be felt is if you shoot them back to back. Oh, and I must admit the cocking extensions are an awesome touch.

[pkc168]

DW > PPQ > HK